Long fighting stick for comment/ID

Atlantia · 7th January 2012, 01:59 PM

During a serious swap session, I needed to choose something else to complete the trade and this rather long fighting stick/staff was the only thing that took my eye.
Lovely aged patina on the wood, size: 4' 3-1/2" 131cm.
Can anyone ID?
(Come on Barry, Tim etc!!

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Tim Simmons · 7th January 2012, 02:32 PM

Very nice indeed. It looks like one could deliver a hefty wack with it. My thoughts on this piece is Africa, perhaps Tchokwe. Eastern Congo/Zambia area?

Atlantia · 7th January 2012, 06:36 PM

Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Glad you like it

Best
Gene

VANDOO · 8th January 2012, 05:12 AM

I LIKE IT A LOT

UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE LITTLE INFORMATION ON AFRICAN STICK/ STAFF/ CLUBS. I CAN MAKE A FEW OBSERVATIONS ALL LOGICAL CONJECTURE.

IT WOULD HAVE LIKELY BEEN CARRIED DURING NORMAL VILLAGE LIFE AND NOT TO WAR. JUST A LITTLE SOMETHING TO SETTLE FRIENDLY ARGUMENTS AND LIKELY THE CARVINGS ON THIS ONE NOTED SOME RANK OR PRESTIEGE. THE PICTURE WITH THE DOUBLE DESIGN KIND OF REMINDS ME OF A CROCODILES BACK. IT IS LIKELY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN USED AS A CLUB (TOO SHORT FOR PRACTICAL STAFF FIGHTING). THE LARGER STRIKEING END WOULD NORMALLY BE RESTED ON THE GROUND WHEN IN POLITE COMPANY TO SHOW YOU WERE PEACEFUL. THIS PICTURE OF FUZZY WUZZIES IS AS CLOSE TO SIZE AND USE AS I CAN COME. PERHAPS SOMEONE WITH MORE KNOWLEGE IN ALL THINGS AFRICAN CAN PROVIDE BETTER INFO. GOOD LUCK

Atlantia · 8th January 2012, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VANDOO

I LIKE IT A LOT

UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE LITTLE INFORMATION ON AFRICAN STICK/ STAFF/ CLUBS. I CAN MAKE A FEW OBSERVATIONS ALL LOGICAL CONJECTURE.

IT WOULD HAVE LIKELY BEEN CARRIED DURING NORMAL VILLAGE LIFE AND NOT TO WAR. JUST A LITTLE SOMETHING TO SETTLE FRIENDLY ARGUMENTS AND LIKELY THE CARVINGS ON THIS ONE NOTED SOME RANK OR PRESTIEGE. THE PICTURE WITH THE DOUBLE DESIGN KIND OF REMINDS ME OF A CROCODILES BACK. IT IS LIKELY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN USED AS A CLUB (TOO SHORT FOR PRACTICAL STAFF FIGHTING). THE LARGER STRIKEING END WOULD NORMALLY BE RESTED ON THE GROUND WHEN IN POLITE COMPANY TO SHOW YOU WERE PEACEFUL. THIS PICTURE OF FUZZY WUZZIES IS AS CLOSE TO SIZE AND USE AS I CAN COME. PERHAPS SOMEONE WITH MORE KNOWLEGE IN ALL THINGS AFRICAN CAN PROVIDE BETTER INFO. GOOD LUCK

Excellent! Thanks for the help mate.
TBH, I wasn't sure if it was African or where it was from when I saw it, I just liked the designs and the lovely aged patina.
So you agree with Tim on the Arfican origin?
Great picture of the Hadendoa, looking rather understated for a change!
I've had a trawl of the net and can't find anything similar to mine, but I did find an interesting picture of the Hadendoa. This chap certainly has a stick/club and I was interested to see wears his Kaskara upside down across his back!

Best
Gene

Atlantia · 17th January 2012, 01:47 PM

Any further thoughts from anyone?

7th January 2012, 01:59 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Long fighting stick for comment/ID During a serious swap session, I needed to choose something else to complete the trade and this rather long fighting stick/staff was the only thing that took my eye. Lovely aged patina on the wood, size: 4' 3-1/2" 131cm. Can anyone ID? (Come on Barry, Tim etc!! ) Attached Images

8th January 2012, 05:12 AM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I LIKE IT A LOT UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE LITTLE INFORMATION ON AFRICAN STICK/ STAFF/ CLUBS. I CAN MAKE A FEW OBSERVATIONS ALL LOGICAL CONJECTURE. IT WOULD HAVE LIKELY BEEN CARRIED DURING NORMAL VILLAGE LIFE AND NOT TO WAR. JUST A LITTLE SOMETHING TO SETTLE FRIENDLY ARGUMENTS AND LIKELY THE CARVINGS ON THIS ONE NOTED SOME RANK OR PRESTIEGE. THE PICTURE WITH THE DOUBLE DESIGN KIND OF REMINDS ME OF A CROCODILES BACK. IT IS LIKELY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN USED AS A CLUB (TOO SHORT FOR PRACTICAL STAFF FIGHTING). THE LARGER STRIKEING END WOULD NORMALLY BE RESTED ON THE GROUND WHEN IN POLITE COMPANY TO SHOW YOU WERE PEACEFUL. THIS PICTURE OF FUZZY WUZZIES IS AS CLOSE TO SIZE AND USE AS I CAN COME. PERHAPS SOMEONE WITH MORE KNOWLEGE IN ALL THINGS AFRICAN CAN PROVIDE BETTER INFO. GOOD LUCK Attached Images

7th January 2012, 02:32 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,841	Very nice indeed. It looks like one could deliver a hefty wack with it. My thoughts on this piece is Africa, perhaps Tchokwe. Eastern Congo/Zambia area?

7th January 2012, 06:36 PM	#3
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Glad you like it Best Gene

17th January 2012, 01:47 PM	#6
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Any further thoughts from anyone?