Pos Greek Cartridge box for ID please (Ilias and Eftihis are you there?)

[Atlantia]

Hi all,
I decided that I rather like these cartridge boxes and wanted a European one rather than the Turkish ones I had.
Specifically hoping for a Greek one (Palaska)
Hopefully this is mission acomplished?
Perhaps our resident experts (Ilias, Eftihis, and others of course) can help and hopefully identify the designs?

Best
Gene

[eftihis]

Hi Gene,
I am not expert in this field, but the design and the birds, reminds designs from epirus in North Greece. These were cast, so there are modern copies arround also, but yours seem to havve some wear and tear. Thats all i can say my friend.

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by eftihis

Hi Gene,
I am not expert in this field, but the design and the birds, reminds designs from epirus in North Greece. These were cast, so there are modern copies arround also, but yours seem to havve some wear and tear. Thats all i can say my friend.

Hi Eftihis
Thanks for the input. I hope it is a real one, it looks to have signs of real age and use as you say
Thaks for the clue to the designs, I'll do some searches.
Here
are some more pics.
best
Gene

[Matchlock]

Hi Gene,

I am quite certain that this is either Greek or Balkan, 19th century.

Best,
Michael

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Matchlock

Hi Gene,

I am quite certain that this is either Greek or Balkan, 19th century.

Best,
Michael

Hi Michael,

Thanks for coming in on this one. Do the designs have any significance to you?
They are quite distinctive with the eagles and central figure......... I have high hopes that it could be identified.

Best
Gene

[ilias]

Hi Atlantia.
You really got a very nice palaska.
I will agree with Eftihis about the possible origin from Epirus in North Greece.
About the design one possible explanation is:
The woman figure possibly a "goddess" or ''Greece'' sits on war trophies and holds at each hand Amalthea's horn.
I wish I could help more.
All the best.
Ilias

[Matchlock]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Hi Michael,

Thanks for coming in on this one. Do the designs have any significance to you?
They are quite distinctive with the eagles and central figure......... I have high hopes that it could be identified.

Best
Gene

Hi Gene,

Jeeping creepers, I've seen plenty of those patrons in sales catalogs but I can't find any at the moment. The web is not helpful either: no useful entries for 'oriental/greek/brass/patron/firearms' on Firefox. I did do some research, believe me.

I will hang on though and leaf thru more important sales catalogs. Sorry but it's not my field of expertise.

Eftihis, could you possibly contribute some reference pics from a book or catalog on Greek or oriental art? These patrons are not rare, there are plenty of them in the market ...

Gene, please have patience.

A dead tired good night to the sunny (? ) South of England from a cold, windy and rainy Bavaria -

and of course best as always,
Michael