About ethnographic arms

Dom · 4th June 2010, 11:20 PM

Hi every body

I found this painting of a young Greek (19th century) which shows clearly how and with what he was armed, it's amazing
it's hard to believe the amount of weapons of all sorts on him,
but it clearly recognizes that we collect those daggers, not less than two in addition to a pair of pistols

à +

Dom

Queequeg · 4th June 2010, 11:27 PM

That young man was brought up well!

CharlesS · 5th June 2010, 12:42 AM

Don't get too carried away with some of the Orientalist art of the 19th century. Many of the artists, most notably Gerome and Deutsch, often overly embellished the "weapons load" on their subjects. Both illustrated by memory, and were also keen to show of examples off their own collections by fancifully displaying them on the subjects in their art.

Still, they look awesome and are hard to resist, especially for us!!

mahratt · 5th June 2010, 05:32 AM

Historically precisely the Russian artist Vereschagin drew inhabitants of India, Afghanistan and Central Asia. If it is interesting, I can lay out photos of works

1) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0%D0%B7%29.jpg

2) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0%B5%D1%86.jpg

3) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...1%80%D0%B5.jpg

4) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...D%D0%B0%29.jpg

If references it is bad, I can put after a photo

Lew · 5th June 2010, 02:09 PM

Here is a link you may find interesting.

http://www.orientalist-art.org.uk/gerome.html

CharlesS · 5th June 2010, 04:13 PM

What a great site Lew. Thanks for sharing that.

You might also enjoy a look at Ludwig Deutsch's work on that site. He loved almost fantasy images of imposing, intimidating palace guards, and they are always loaded with weapons...overloaded even...but great pieces(weapons) and each piece is very recognizable as to what it is and its origin.

Nathaniel · 6th June 2010, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mahratt

Historically precisely the Russian artist Vereschagin drew inhabitants of India, Afghanistan and Central Asia. If it is interesting, I can lay out photos of works

1) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0%D0%B7%29.jpg

2) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0%B5%D1%86.jpg

3) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...1%80%D0%B5.jpg

4) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...D%D0%B0%29.jpg

If references it is bad, I can put after a photo

Beautiful depictions of an age gone past....

mahratt · 6th June 2010, 10:02 PM

4th June 2010, 11:20 PM	#1
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	About ethnographic arms Hi every body I found this painting of a young Greek (19th century) which shows clearly how and with what he was armed, it's amazing it's hard to believe the amount of weapons of all sorts on him, but it clearly recognizes that we collect those daggers, not less than two in addition to a pair of pistols à + Dom

5th June 2010, 12:42 AM	#3
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Don't get too carried away with some of the Orientalist art of the 19th century. Many of the artists, most notably Gerome and Deutsch, often overly embellished the "weapons load" on their subjects. Both illustrated by memory, and were also keen to show of examples off their own collections by fancifully displaying them on the subjects in their art. Still, they look awesome and are hard to resist, especially for us!! Last edited by CharlesS; 5th June 2010 at 11:28 AM.

4th June 2010, 11:27 PM	#2
Queequeg Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Detroit (New Mayapan) Posts: 96	That young man was brought up well!

5th June 2010, 05:32 AM	#4
mahratt Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Russia Posts: 1,042	Historically precisely the Russian artist Vereschagin drew inhabitants of India, Afghanistan and Central Asia. If it is interesting, I can lay out photos of works 1) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0%D0%B7%29.jpg 2) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0%B5%D1%86.jpg 3) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...1%80%D0%B5.jpg 4) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...D%D0%B0%29.jpg If references it is bad, I can put after a photo

5th June 2010, 02:09 PM	#5
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Here is a link you may find interesting. http://www.orientalist-art.org.uk/gerome.html

5th June 2010, 04:13 PM	#6
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	What a great site Lew. Thanks for sharing that. You might also enjoy a look at Ludwig Deutsch's work on that site. He loved almost fantasy images of imposing, intimidating palace guards, and they are always loaded with weapons...overloaded even...but great pieces(weapons) and each piece is very recognizable as to what it is and its origin.

6th June 2010, 10:02 PM	#8
mahratt Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Russia Posts: 1,042