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Old 30th May 2010, 06:01 PM   #1
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Default to determine Persian Pesh-Kabze

to determine Persian Pesh-Kabze
my latest purchase from the weekend.
I am no expert, so would interest me what you think.
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Old 30th May 2010, 09:32 PM   #2
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It almost looks like a Zirah Bouk of sorts .

Then again ...

Lovely .
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Old 30th May 2010, 10:25 PM   #3
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It almost looks like a Zirah Bouk of sorts .

Lovely .
Yes, Zirah Bouk is characterized by a swollen diamond cross-section (Mail Pierced) tip. This one can also be called Pesh Kabz. (Doesl Zirah Bouk belong to a Pesh Kabz family?).
This is old one, Central Asian (likely Afghanistan), likely 19th Century. The grips are camel bone, and are replacements, they do not fit correctly. The blade looks acid etched, and true inlay looks brass, not gold, but I could be wrong.
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Old 31st May 2010, 05:37 PM   #4
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You know, we always refer to these weapons as mail piercers .

When one considers the amount of clothing that needed to be penetrated in the areas these were mainly used; one can also see a need for such a blade shape .
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Old 3rd June 2010, 04:33 PM   #5
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hello together

many thanks for your information.
but I still have questions.
Alex says the handle is made of camel bone. how does one do that? for me it looks like antlers.
in the pictures of Rick, is written in the bottom two Para-I-tutti. Pesh Kabze.
I have the word Para-I-Tutti never heard or read. can someone explain to me what that means?
The gold decoration is sublime, I have never seen someone knows?
thank you for your answers.
gruss Chregu
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Old 3rd June 2010, 05:50 PM   #6
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hello together

many thanks for your information.
but I still have questions.
Alex says the handle is made of camel bone. how does one do that? for me it looks like antlers.
in the pictures of Rick, is written in the bottom two Para-I-tutti. Pesh Kabze.
I have the word Para-I-Tutti never heard or read. can someone explain to me what that means?
The gold decoration is sublime, I have never seen someone knows?
thank you for your answers.
gruss Chregu

They use a section of a leg bone and shave it down. It may be a section of polished antler but since I do not have it in hand I can't be positive.
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