Thai's damar murub?

Moshah · 13th April 2010, 05:19 PM

Hi guys,

I think this keris could be Pattani's pandai saras, in damar murub form.

What do you think?

PenangsangII · 14th April 2010, 05:03 AM

very very rare form indeed for a Pattani blade..... Could you please provide a clearer close up at the pucukan especially at the first luk. Thks.

Moshah · 14th April 2010, 12:55 PM

Yeah, I've never seen this form in any pattani / peninsular blade. I've seen a bugis keris with this form, but that's the only one I had seen so far.

Damar murub is notably for javanese blades, hence the dapur is one of javanese dapurs. However there are not many javanese damar murub either...

Moshah · 14th April 2010, 01:17 PM

some more pix.

I've change the pix's orientation, initial pix surely get your neck twisted...sorry.

PenangsangII · 15th April 2010, 01:44 AM

based on the pics... I dare say this is a true blue Pattani blade.... let me know if you are bored with it......

Moshah · 15th April 2010, 03:24 AM

Pardon my knowledge in this region of keris, PenansangII, but what is the main classification of pattani blade?

Spoken of general characteristic of a patani blade, I know normally the diamond section that runs from the base of the sorsoran straight up to the edge is the easiest ticket to be claimed as a pattani piece, but is that the only characteristic?

Secondly, could we call this blade a pandai saras? Is the gandik form conforms to pandai saras?

I've also read about patani vs kelantan blade, but sadly I could not distinguish which is which. Is it possible that this blade could be a kelantanese piece as well?

Third, the dress. Is the hilt + sheath + pendokok also pattani style? Or was it north peninsula, or kelantanese?

By looking at the sheath fitments, I would say it was not the original sheath for the blade. Do you think it should be properly dressed like any given tajong would be?

Thanks in advance for any info that you could share with me. I still not bored with the blade but it could be bored with me instead

13th April 2010, 05:19 PM	#1
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	Pattani's damar murub? Hi guys, I think this keris could be Pattani's pandai saras, in damar murub form. What do you think? Attached Images Last edited by Moshah; 14th April 2010 at 03:05 PM.

14th April 2010, 12:55 PM	#3
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	Yeah, I've never seen this form in any pattani / peninsular blade. I've seen a bugis keris with this form, but that's the only one I had seen so far. Damar murub is notably for javanese blades, hence the dapur is one of javanese dapurs. However there are not many javanese damar murub either... Last edited by Moshah; 14th April 2010 at 01:12 PM.

14th April 2010, 01:17 PM	#4
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	some more pix. I've change the pix's orientation, initial pix surely get your neck twisted...sorry. Attached Images Last edited by Moshah; 14th April 2010 at 03:03 PM.

14th April 2010, 05:03 AM	#2
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	very very rare form indeed for a Pattani blade..... Could you please provide a clearer close up at the pucukan especially at the first luk. Thks.

15th April 2010, 01:44 AM	#5
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	based on the pics... I dare say this is a true blue Pattani blade.... let me know if you are bored with it......

15th April 2010, 03:24 AM	#6
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	Pardon my knowledge in this region of keris, PenansangII, but what is the main classification of pattani blade? Spoken of general characteristic of a patani blade, I know normally the diamond section that runs from the base of the sorsoran straight up to the edge is the easiest ticket to be claimed as a pattani piece, but is that the only characteristic? Secondly, could we call this blade a pandai saras? Is the gandik form conforms to pandai saras? I've also read about patani vs kelantan blade, but sadly I could not distinguish which is which. Is it possible that this blade could be a kelantanese piece as well? Third, the dress. Is the hilt + sheath + pendokok also pattani style? Or was it north peninsula, or kelantanese? By looking at the sheath fitments, I would say it was not the original sheath for the blade. Do you think it should be properly dressed like any given tajong would be? Thanks in advance for any info that you could share with me. I still not bored with the blade but it could be bored with me instead