Translation needed on Sudanese Dagger

Lew · 1st September 2005, 01:38 AM

Hi Guys

I picked up this nice dagger today but need help with the Arabic writing on the blade. Any help would be appreciated.

Lew

Raja Muda · 1st September 2005, 08:16 AM

Greetings
Picture 2's inscription is Al-Khartoum 1318 (Hijra year) while Picture 3's inscription is Omdurman 1318 (same date).
I guess you need to check what year it was exactly but going by the fact that 2005 AD is 1426 Hijra, then a 108 years difference would make it roughly anytime between 1897, 1896 or 1895 (one needs a proper conversion table since a lunar calendar has less days than the gregorian solar one). Mine's just a rough estimate

Is it possible that this baby is a Mahdist sidearm or from a bit later?

Lew · 2nd September 2005, 02:17 AM

Hi Raja

I checked the date 1318 started May 1st 1900 which was towards the end of the Madhist revolt. Thanks for the translation.

Lew

Lew · 11th September 2005, 09:09 PM

Hi Guys

The dagger arrived today. The hilt is in excellent condition the blade has a couple of nicks otherwise in good shape the rib is thick and well forged. The dagger is quite a stout speciman when compared to my other Sudanese pieces.

Lew

Tim Simmons · 11th September 2005, 09:58 PM

Handsome!

1st September 2005, 08:16 AM	#2
Raja Muda Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 100	Translated Greetings Picture 2's inscription is Al-Khartoum 1318 (Hijra year) while Picture 3's inscription is Omdurman 1318 (same date). I guess you need to check what year it was exactly but going by the fact that 2005 AD is 1426 Hijra, then a 108 years difference would make it roughly anytime between 1897, 1896 or 1895 (one needs a proper conversion table since a lunar calendar has less days than the gregorian solar one). Mine's just a rough estimate Is it possible that this baby is a Mahdist sidearm or from a bit later?

11th September 2005, 09:09 PM	#4
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Hi Guys The dagger arrived today. The hilt is in excellent condition the blade has a couple of nicks otherwise in good shape the rib is thick and well forged. The dagger is quite a stout speciman when compared to my other Sudanese pieces. Lew Attached Images

2nd September 2005, 02:17 AM	#3
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Hi Raja I checked the date 1318 started May 1st 1900 which was towards the end of the Madhist revolt. Thanks for the translation. Lew

11th September 2005, 09:58 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,841	Handsome!