Cuspidor

Sajen · 6th December 2009, 03:20 PM

Hello All,

I just get a rare cuspidor from Java (used for betel chewing) with an interesting detail you found also on pendoks from Java. Here the pictures for sharing.
Like every time all comments are welcome.

sajen

Sajen · 6th December 2009, 03:23 PM

One question I have by this: how is this double headed peacock called and have it a special background?

A. G. Maisey · 6th December 2009, 11:21 PM

This bird form is an element of design in a number of motifs, you will find variations of it in many of the semen motifs such as semen merak, semen wregu, and semen lungka.

Each motif is made up of various elements, and I do not know the name of each individual element in each traditional motif. There are hundreds of traditional motifs, and even more design elements within each motif. The naming of each design element, and any story attached to that design element would be a very specialised field of study, and one that I have not seen illuminated even in specialised texts on the subject.

The other notable design element in this cuspidor is the repetitive triangular tumpal motif.

Probably the best references for Indonesian design motifs are books dealing with batik.

The tumpal motif is said to represent plenty, by its association with the pyramid rice mounds at slametans --- it is a very old motif, and the various semen motifs are symbolic of a garden.

Sajen · 6th December 2009, 11:35 PM

Thank you Alan. This is a adequate answer.

Regards,

Detlef

fernando · 7th December 2009, 12:38 AM

Hi guys,
I saw the thread title and just popped in to show surprise (and joy) in knowing how this thing is called; cuspidor is a pure portuguese term and means ... spitter.
Sorry to have bothered you if you already knew it; i didn't

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Fernando

Sajen · 7th December 2009, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

Hi guys,
I saw the thread title and just popped in to show surprise (and joy) in knowing how this thing is called; cuspidor is a pure portuguese term and means ... spitter.
Sorry to have bothered you if you already knew it; i didn't

.
Fernando

Hi Fernando,

it is a spitter! When you chewing betel it is like you use chewing tobacco, you have to spit every time.

Detlef

6th December 2009, 03:20 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,731	Cuspidor Hello All, I just get a rare cuspidor from Java (used for betel chewing) with an interesting detail you found also on pendoks from Java. Here the pictures for sharing. Like every time all comments are welcome. sajen Attached Images

6th December 2009, 03:23 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,731	One question I have by this: how is this double headed peacock called and have it a special background?

6th December 2009, 11:21 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,853	This bird form is an element of design in a number of motifs, you will find variations of it in many of the semen motifs such as semen merak, semen wregu, and semen lungka. Each motif is made up of various elements, and I do not know the name of each individual element in each traditional motif. There are hundreds of traditional motifs, and even more design elements within each motif. The naming of each design element, and any story attached to that design element would be a very specialised field of study, and one that I have not seen illuminated even in specialised texts on the subject. The other notable design element in this cuspidor is the repetitive triangular tumpal motif. Probably the best references for Indonesian design motifs are books dealing with batik. The tumpal motif is said to represent plenty, by its association with the pyramid rice mounds at slametans --- it is a very old motif, and the various semen motifs are symbolic of a garden.

6th December 2009, 11:35 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,731	Thank you Alan. This is a adequate answer. Regards, Detlef

7th December 2009, 12:38 AM	#5
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi guys, I saw the thread title and just popped in to show surprise (and joy) in knowing how this thing is called; cuspidor is a pure portuguese term and means ... spitter. Sorry to have bothered you if you already knew it; i didn't . Fernando