Antique spring assist/gravity wrist daggers

Atlantia · 19th November 2009, 08:22 PM

Of the up the sleeve attached to your arm type....
I've often wondered if there is any historical precedent for these in reality?

4:20 in this clip
Kroenen

25 seconds in on this one
Laurence Olvier in Marathon man

55 seconds
Assasins Creed

fearn · 19th November 2009, 09:13 PM

I think the Marathon Man clip shows what the problem is

Seriously, it looks concealable, but you've got to figure out some sort of trigger that's also inconspicuous, and then keep the whole thing on your arm without accidentally triggering it. It's easier to simply hide a knife in a sheath somewhere.

I've seen pics of guns and dart throwers in that configuration, but offhand I don't know of a real implementation of it anywhere.

Best,

F

Atlantia · 19th November 2009, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fearn

I think the Marathon Man clip shows what the problem is

Seriously, it looks concealable, but you've got to figure out some sort of trigger that's also inconspicuous, and then keep the whole thing on your arm without accidentally triggering it. It's easier to simply hide a knife in a sheath somewhere.

I've seen pics of guns and dart throwers in that configuration, but offhand I don't know of a real implementation of it anywhere.

Best,

F

Well, I dont think there is any doubt that small guns have had 'up the arm' rigs made for them. I think the 'flick' method employed in Taxi Driver using the carriage from a typewriter is the best! Check youtube for more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XZWi...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jamg3FRHfE

personal fav's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNZR9...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8opY0LeMRoI

fearn · 20th November 2009, 06:44 PM

In case I was confusing, I meant an up-the-arm knife, following the question.

Thinking about it, I do know a story of a Chinese martial arts master who could reportedly throw a knife out of a wrist sheath. That definitely qualifies as a neat trick in my book, but it's not quite what you're looking for.

Best,

F

Rick · 20th November 2009, 07:01 PM

Is this what you mean ?
A antique version ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_knife

josh stout · 24th November 2009, 11:37 PM

I once asked Scott Rodell about the brass spring loaded wrist darts from China that one occasionally sees on eBay, and he said that, while he was skeptical about the ones for sale, they were based on a real weapon. Chinese throwing knives, needles etc. are pretty rare, though they are well documented in martial arts styles and period novels. The wrist dart holders look like brass tubes around eight inches long and shoot needles like short fat knitting needles. The dart is spring loaded. There is a groove going around near the tip of the dart and this slots into a small release mechanism that can be depressed with a finger.

I can't think of any similar arrangement where a fixed blade sprang out like that. There were double and single knives or even small maces that were traditionally hidden up a sleeve, but nothing fixed. The Chinese like to be able to spin their knives around.
Josh

19th November 2009, 08:22 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Antique spring assist/gravity wrist daggers Of the up the sleeve attached to your arm type.... I've often wondered if there is any historical precedent for these in reality? 4:20 in this clip Kroenen 25 seconds in on this one Laurence Olvier in Marathon man 55 seconds Assasins Creed

20th November 2009, 07:01 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,282	Ballistic Is this what you mean ? A antique version ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_knife

24th November 2009, 11:37 PM	#6
josh stout Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 407	I once asked Scott Rodell about the brass spring loaded wrist darts from China that one occasionally sees on eBay, and he said that, while he was skeptical about the ones for sale, they were based on a real weapon. Chinese throwing knives, needles etc. are pretty rare, though they are well documented in martial arts styles and period novels. The wrist dart holders look like brass tubes around eight inches long and shoot needles like short fat knitting needles. The dart is spring loaded. There is a groove going around near the tip of the dart and this slots into a small release mechanism that can be depressed with a finger. I can't think of any similar arrangement where a fixed blade sprang out like that. There were double and single knives or even small maces that were traditionally hidden up a sleeve, but nothing fixed. The Chinese like to be able to spin their knives around. Josh Last edited by josh stout; 24th November 2009 at 11:48 PM.

19th November 2009, 09:13 PM	#2
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	I think the Marathon Man clip shows what the problem is Seriously, it looks concealable, but you've got to figure out some sort of trigger that's also inconspicuous, and then keep the whole thing on your arm without accidentally triggering it. It's easier to simply hide a knife in a sheath somewhere. I've seen pics of guns and dart throwers in that configuration, but offhand I don't know of a real implementation of it anywhere. Best, F

20th November 2009, 06:44 PM	#4
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	In case I was confusing, I meant an up-the-arm knife, following the question. Thinking about it, I do know a story of a Chinese martial arts master who could reportedly throw a knife out of a wrist sheath. That definitely qualifies as a neat trick in my book, but it's not quite what you're looking for. Best, F