Pamorless keris (keleng)

ferrylaki · 29th April 2009, 05:10 AM

recently got this pamorless keris.
I always wondering about kelengan keris, and finally I got one.
I've been trying to find out whether it has a hiddden pamor. the result comes to zero, but I found small area in the middle of the blade surface showing tiny little materials ( like a very smooth sands). what is it? .
the new warangan work seem just fine.

Rick · 29th April 2009, 10:47 PM

Could it be old iron showing edge hardening Ferry ?

ferrylaki · 30th April 2009, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Could it be old iron showing edge hardening Ferry ?

I have no idea.
some people said, it was caused by the impurities of the iron.

BluErf · 30th April 2009, 11:40 AM

The 'smooth sand' is prob what is known as 'pamor miang' in peninsular keris context. It's not really a pamor, but some sort of crystallization. Experience is that metals exhibiting "pamor miang" are not very strong/hard, and is usually the non-cutting edge metal. Sometimes we see this in Sumatran kerises without pamor as well. Not sure how it is formed though.

ferrylaki · 1st May 2009, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BluErf

The 'smooth sand' is prob what is known as 'pamor miang' in peninsular keris context. It's not really a pamor, but some sort of crystallization. Experience is that metals exhibiting "pamor miang" are not very strong/hard, and is usually the non-cutting edge metal. Sometimes we see this in Sumatran kerises without pamor as well. Not sure how it is formed though.

Thank You BluErf,
the 'smooth sand' do not bother me any way.
I'm quite pleased with the warangan work.
the black colour seem strong and deep. specially after I put some keris oil on it. I took tho pisture immediately after the oiling, and it result nicely.

here are some pictures before the warangan process. I hope you all enjoying the picture as I do.

the third picture shows some lines as a result of the forging process.
really love those lines. I've been looking for keris with lines.

G. McCormack · 1st May 2009, 05:23 AM

the 'sand' like appearance you see is just the crystal structure of the steel/iron revealed by the etch. Probably a forest of pearlite crystals.

Nice blade.

29th April 2009, 05:10 AM	#1
ferrylaki Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 285	Pamorless keris (keleng) recently got this pamorless keris. I always wondering about kelengan keris, and finally I got one. I've been trying to find out whether it has a hiddden pamor. the result comes to zero, but I found small area in the middle of the blade surface showing tiny little materials ( like a very smooth sands). what is it? . the new warangan work seem just fine. Attached Images

29th April 2009, 10:47 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,325	Could it be old iron showing edge hardening Ferry ?

30th April 2009, 11:40 AM	#4
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	The 'smooth sand' is prob what is known as 'pamor miang' in peninsular keris context. It's not really a pamor, but some sort of crystallization. Experience is that metals exhibiting "pamor miang" are not very strong/hard, and is usually the non-cutting edge metal. Sometimes we see this in Sumatran kerises without pamor as well. Not sure how it is formed though.

1st May 2009, 05:23 AM	#6
G. McCormack Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 131	the 'sand' like appearance you see is just the crystal structure of the steel/iron revealed by the etch. Probably a forest of pearlite crystals. Nice blade.