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Old 31st May 2021, 10:01 PM   #1
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As the title suggests- among your weapons, what are your favorite laminated ones and why?

To start off- here's my kalis and kris, both of which have white-tinged laminations which glint when put to light. Not so clear on my cellphone camera, but you get the idea. I like them because of the contrast of the white-tinged areas on the rest of the blade and how it reflects on sunlight.

All laminated ethnographic weapons (not only blades) are welcome
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Old 3rd June 2021, 03:06 AM   #2
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One of my favorite gunongs, previously posted here, has an impressive laminated blade.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23088

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Old 3rd June 2021, 07:37 AM   #3
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One of my favorites is a Georgian laminated qama.
Another of my favourites is a small yataghan in Turkish ribbon.
Last but not least is a Balinese wedhung (I cleaned and re-etched the blade, so now looks much better than in the photos).
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Old 3rd June 2021, 04:43 PM   #4
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One of my favorites is a Georgian laminated qama.
Another of my favourites is a small yataghan in Turkish ribbon.
Last but not least is a Balinese wedhung (I cleaned and re-etched the blade, so now looks much better than in the photos).
Excellent laminations sir- the first two are great, but the wedhung is jaw-dropping, it's my first time to see one etched like that!
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Old 3rd June 2021, 09:56 PM   #5
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Here's some better pics, along with another nicely laminated gunong.

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Old 3rd June 2021, 11:00 PM   #6
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This wedung pamor motif is a descendent of Dietrich Drescher's "Pamor Poleng", designed by Mr. Drescher and executed by Empu Pauzan Pusposukadgo of Surakarta.

This motif was later copied by the pandes of Aeng Tong-tong near Sumenep in Madura. I have a Madura keris bethok with the poleng motif.
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Old 3rd June 2021, 04:42 PM   #7
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One of my favorite gunongs, previously posted here, has an impressive laminated blade.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23088

Enjoy,
Leif
Very nice Leif, I think that has nickel mixed in also. Great contrast!
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Old 13th June 2021, 10:04 PM   #8
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Here’s a few with laminations… a kalis, barung, and a couple of spear heads.
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Old 14th June 2021, 07:17 PM   #9
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Very nice! Those narrow light colored curving lines in the twist core (pattern-welded) panel of the left spear head will contain nickel.
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Old 14th June 2021, 09:31 PM   #10
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Very nice! Those narrow light colored curving lines in the twist core (pattern-welded) panel of the left spear head will contain nickel.
Good eye Lee. The narrow light colored lines almost look chrome in person.
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Old 14th June 2021, 11:25 PM   #11
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Just before the pandemic struck, I had performed a survey of my collection with an XRF analyzer. When we think of medieval Europe and twist-core patterns, iron with phosphorus was most often used to get the lighter colored areas. Modern bladesmiths will use nickel or nickel alloys (even meteorite). Interestingly, many of the Moro pieces show use of both materials. I hope to finish analyzing the data before too much longer, but your spear showed the feature ever so well. It could be chrome, but I doubt it as it looks like an item of respectable age. Thank you again for showing these.
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Old 15th June 2021, 08:37 AM   #12
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Thumbs up Interesting technique ...

Lee raises a very good point about the usefulness of X-Ray Fluorescence (XRF) in assessing the elemental composition of blades. While there are some technical issues with detecting certain elements, the technique is non-destructive and well suited to analyzing the surface of weapons. It offers important insight, for example, into the metals used in old blades. Look forward to seeing what the results turn up, Lee.
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Old 15th June 2021, 11:06 AM   #13
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Default Laminated Kindjal Blade

Here is an example of a Kindjal blade.
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Old 15th June 2021, 07:33 PM   #14
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Great and rare piece, Kurt!
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Old 17th June 2021, 11:08 AM   #15
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When I bought this dagger it was very polihed but I thought I saw patterns in the steel. I etched and hoped for wootz, it was not. Even so I really like the pattern and how it transfers to the T-spine.
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Old 17th June 2021, 07:45 PM   #16
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^^^
I'd love to see a picture of the entire piece.
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I'd love to see a picture of the entire piece.
Sure thing Rick Its a rather large dagger right around 50cm long.
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