20thC Folding combination knife 'REMANIT' ID needed

Atlantia · 27th September 2009, 12:14 PM

Picked up this old folder today. Beautiful quality, haven't cleaned it up yet so its a bit grubby. Not sure if I'll keep it forever, but I'll enjoy it for a while.
Can anyone ID the maker or help witha date please? The blades are stamped 'REMANIT Rost Frei'.
I'd normally ignore anything marked 'rost frei' as being modern, but this doesn't feel modern to me. Staghorn slabs, Heavy nickel mounts, the 'guards' seem to be some kind of multi purpose grip/tool and are marked 'C12' one one and 'C16' on the other.

G. McCormack · 27th September 2009, 03:12 PM

I'd say German c. 1950 or so. Or nearby. Pity the blades are buffed- its a lovely piece but I always think buffed finishes cheapen things. Are you going to carry it? Nice antler on it, too.

broadaxe · 27th September 2009, 03:59 PM

This is a classic, old-world hunter's pocket knife. Rostfrei = stainless (steel) in German. The different guards (12GA & 16GA) are for removing swelled empty cartridges from shotguns without ejectors. Despite the common belief that stainless steel was available commercially only after WWII, it is not so. First known stainless steel knife was made in 1911 and Germany was almost the only country to produce quality stainless steel knives before WWII.
Similar copies of that pattern were made in large numbers (though of lower quality) in soviet-era Russia, roughly during 1960-1980.

Atlantia · 1st October 2009, 10:39 AM

Hi guys, thanks for the info. Anyone know this maker in particular? Sorry for the late reply, been layed a bit low with a heavy cold for a few days.
Cleaning the knife up at the mo, bit grubby, but seems to have survived very well.

kahnjar1 · 2nd October 2009, 06:56 AM

Hi Gene,
A GOOGLE search of REMANIT suggests that it is a TYPE of stainless steel rather than a maker. Check it out and see what you think.
The knife appears to me to be one designed for use by hunters, as the two claws to remove stuck cartridges would obviously only be of use in this application.
Hows the head??
Regards Stu

Atlantia · 2nd October 2009, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Hi Gene,
A GOOGLE search of REMANIT suggests that it is a TYPE of stainless steel rather than a maker. Check it out and see what you think.
The knife appears to me to be one designed for use by hunters, as the two claws to remove stuck cartridges would obviously only be of use in this application.
Hows the head??
Regards Stu

Hello mate,

LOL, my mrs got it last week, and is heavily pregnant so couldn't take much for it poor thing. Just when I thought we'd start to get more than 1/2 hours sleep at a time, I come down with it! I guess it could have been worse (Swine flu not just a heavy cold) but I've felt pretty rough!
Much better now thanks.

She is too.

The steel huh? I did see something about a dental alloy... I'll have another look after work, thanks mate.

Regards
gene

Norman McCormick · 3rd October 2009, 04:06 PM

Hi Gene,
I think the 'hoofpick with the hole' is a can opener.
Regards,
Norman.

fernando · 3rd October 2009, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman McCormick

Hi Gene,
I think the 'hoofpick with the hole' is a can opener.
Regards,
Norman.

A similar device is seen over here in bottle cork openers, for cutting off the lead cover that seals the whine bottles, before you use the screw to open them.
Does this make sense?
Fernando

fernando · 3rd October 2009, 05:04 PM

Do you fancy antique combined pocket knives?
How about this botanic setup ... made in Germany for the British market ?
The inscription on the blade reads someone, 158 Strand; maybe the retailer ... or the owner.
The DRGM appoints to a date around 1905.

Fernando

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Atlantia · 3rd October 2009, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

Do you fancy antique combined pocket knives?
How about this botanic setup ... made in Germany for the British market ?
The inscription on the blade reads someone, 158 Strand; maybe the retailer ... or the owner.
The DRGM appoints to a date around 1905.

Fernando

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Hi Nando,
Well, I usually don't keep them long as others like them a lot, and I prefer ethnic stuff.
You've got a rather nice 'pruning knife' there!
Unusual for sure and very collectable! Is there a saw blade too?
That particular one was as you say made in Germany for export (and sale by foreign retailers) Do you want to see a near identical one (in fact identical but with a saw) from a book I have?
Regards
Gene

fernando · 3rd October 2009, 06:53 PM

Hi Gene,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Hi Nando,
Well, I usually don't keep them long as others like them a lot, and I prefer ethnic stuff.
You've got a rather nice 'pruning knife' there!
Unusual for sure and very collectable! Is there a saw blade too?
That particular one was as you say made in Germany for export (and sale by foreign retailers) Do you want to see a near identical one (in fact identical but with a saw) from a book I have?
Regards
Gene

The thing is that, for already a while i try to find someone interested in these things, so that i can offer this one ... for free. I gave up collecting pocket knives a zillion years ago, and there are a few left that i don't mind giving a way, for only the mailing cost.
... to a known dear forum member, of course.
Fernando

kahnjar1 · 3rd October 2009, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

A similar device is seen over here in bottle cork openers, for cutting off the lead cover that seals the whine bottles, before you use the screw to open them.
Does this make sense?
Fernando

My pick would also be a blade for removing foil tops on wine bottles. The actual pick type "blade" on this knife I think would be for getting stones etc out of horse hoofs (among other things).
Regards Stu

Atlantia · 3rd October 2009, 10:55 PM

Sorry Stu, which do you think the hook blade on mine is? (the one with the hole).
And any thoughts on the hole?

Cheers mate
Gene

kahnjar1 · 3rd October 2009, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Sorry Stu, which do you think the hook blade opn mine is? (the one with the hole).
And any thoughts on the hole?

Cheers mate
Gene

Hi Gene,
I was refering to yours. The hook blade I believe is for removing the foil on wine bottles, and the hole COULD be for loosening that nasty wire that you find on champagne bottles....insert the end of the wire in the hole to untwist? I have also seen wire on european stone wine/gin bottles. No doubt at the end of the hunt there was a celebration!!
In my opinion it is NOT for opening cans, as the tool for that requires somthing to grip the rim, as per those shown by Norm.
Feeling any better??
Stu

Atlantia · 3rd October 2009, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman McCormick

Hi Gene,
I think the 'hoofpick with the hole' is a can opener.
Regards,
Norman.

Hi Norman,

it doesn't have a sharp (ish) edge though, it would be murder getting it through a can?

Regards
Gene

Norman McCormick · 3rd October 2009, 11:15 PM

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kahnjar1 · 3rd October 2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman McCormick

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27th September 2009, 12:14 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	20thC Folding combination knife 'REMANIT' ID needed Picked up this old folder today. Beautiful quality, haven't cleaned it up yet so its a bit grubby. Not sure if I'll keep it forever, but I'll enjoy it for a while. Can anyone ID the maker or help witha date please? The blades are stamped 'REMANIT Rost Frei'. I'd normally ignore anything marked 'rost frei' as being modern, but this doesn't feel modern to me. Staghorn slabs, Heavy nickel mounts, the 'guards' seem to be some kind of multi purpose grip/tool and are marked 'C12' one one and 'C16' on the other.

3rd October 2009, 05:04 PM	#9
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Do you fancy antique combined pocket knives? How about this botanic setup ... made in Germany for the British market ? The inscription on the blade reads someone, 158 Strand; maybe the retailer ... or the owner. The DRGM appoints to a date around 1905. Fernando . Attached Images Last edited by fernando; 3rd October 2009 at 05:43 PM. Reason: correction

27th September 2009, 03:12 PM	#2
G. McCormack Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 131	I'd say German c. 1950 or so. Or nearby. Pity the blades are buffed- its a lovely piece but I always think buffed finishes cheapen things. Are you going to carry it? Nice antler on it, too.

27th September 2009, 03:59 PM	#3
broadaxe Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 332	This is a classic, old-world hunter's pocket knife. Rostfrei = stainless (steel) in German. The different guards (12GA & 16GA) are for removing swelled empty cartridges from shotguns without ejectors. Despite the common belief that stainless steel was available commercially only after WWII, it is not so. First known stainless steel knife was made in 1911 and Germany was almost the only country to produce quality stainless steel knives before WWII. Similar copies of that pattern were made in large numbers (though of lower quality) in soviet-era Russia, roughly during 1960-1980.

1st October 2009, 10:39 AM	#4
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Hi guys, thanks for the info. Anyone know this maker in particular? Sorry for the late reply, been layed a bit low with a heavy cold for a few days. Cleaning the knife up at the mo, bit grubby, but seems to have survived very well.

2nd October 2009, 06:56 AM	#5
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,731	Hi Gene, A GOOGLE search of REMANIT suggests that it is a TYPE of stainless steel rather than a maker. Check it out and see what you think. The knife appears to me to be one designed for use by hunters, as the two claws to remove stuck cartridges would obviously only be of use in this application. Hows the head?? Regards Stu

3rd October 2009, 04:06 PM	#7
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,592	Hi Gene, I think the 'hoofpick with the hole' is a can opener. Regards, Norman.

3rd October 2009, 10:55 PM	#13
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Sorry Stu, which do you think the hook blade on mine is? (the one with the hole). And any thoughts on the hole? Cheers mate Gene

3rd October 2009, 11:15 PM	#16
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