KARO BATAK / HYBRIDE SIKIN ATJEH ??

asomotif · 13th July 2012, 11:03 PM

Comming soon to my theater this sikin-like karo batak sword.
I bought it as an addition to my sikins. You don't see these around a lot.
I would love to see similar examples for comparrison.

Best regards,
Willem

kai · 14th July 2012, 01:27 AM

Congrats again, Willem!

While the blade may well come from Aceh, all the fittings do look Karo Batak to me: IMHO a good, genuine piece. It is known that the sikin / peudeueng panjang was also used in the Batak area but examples appear to be quite rare.

Gavin offered its small brother a while ago:
http://www.swordsantiqueweapons.com/s628_full.html
(pics attached for archive purposes)

Regards,
Kai

asomotif · 14th July 2012, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

While the blade may well come from Aceh, all the fittings do look Karo Batak to me: IMHO a good, genuine piece. It is known that the sikin / peudeueng panjang was also used in the Batak area but examples appear to be quite rare.

Hello Kai,
Well it is the Atjeh blade that made it attractive for me.
Your example is also very nice with the atjeh blade and batak fittings.
Especially the brass handle is very charming.

Atlantia · 14th July 2012, 10:35 PM

It's very nice Willem.
A good size too.

Maurice · 14th July 2012, 10:49 PM

Nice piece Willem!

It has just the right old patina on it all over....

kai · 14th July 2012, 10:57 PM

Hello Willem,

Quote:

Well it is the Atjeh blade that made it attractive for me.

Yeah, it's a good example of a blade type diffusing to the periphery of a regional power and beyond.

Quote:

Especially the brass handle is very charming.

Yup, both examples highlight the propensity to utilize brass for some Batak status pieces. While yours shows a status crown/calyx with a hulu rumpung, mine seems to be an attempt at a hulu tumpang beunteueng with a Batak-style silver collar. I find it interesting that both examples emulate hilts from the greater Aceh region (rather than utilizing one of the many Batak hilts) while the other fittings are typical Batak. However, these hilts are also of Batak craftmanship (note that both exhibit a stronger curved pommel than genuine Aceh hilts).

Regards,
Kai

asomotif · 17th July 2012, 10:38 PM

Yessss.... it arrived in good shape.
Took some pictures next to atjeh sikins for comparison.

asomotif · 19th July 2012, 08:31 PM

A few daylight pictures.

Notice that the blade is a sikin, but much rougher in finish.

13th July 2012, 11:03 PM	#1
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,224	KARO BATAK / HYBRIDE SIKIN ATJEH ?? Comming soon to my theater this sikin-like karo batak sword. I bought it as an addition to my sikins. You don't see these around a lot. I would love to see similar examples for comparrison. Best regards, Willem Attached Images

14th July 2012, 01:27 AM	#2
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Congrats again, Willem! While the blade may well come from Aceh, all the fittings do look Karo Batak to me: IMHO a good, genuine piece. It is known that the sikin / peudeueng panjang was also used in the Batak area but examples appear to be quite rare. Gavin offered its small brother a while ago: http://www.swordsantiqueweapons.com/s628_full.html (pics attached for archive purposes) Regards, Kai Attached Images

14th July 2012, 10:49 PM	#5
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,334	Nice piece Willem! It has just the right old patina on it all over.... Last edited by Maurice; 14th July 2012 at 11:07 PM.

17th July 2012, 10:38 PM	#7
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,224	Yessss.... it arrived in good shape. Took some pictures next to atjeh sikins for comparison. Attached Images

19th July 2012, 08:31 PM	#8
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,224	A few daylight pictures. Notice that the blade is a sikin, but much rougher in finish. Attached Images

14th July 2012, 10:35 PM	#4
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	It's very nice Willem. A good size too.