Strange Persian?

Emanuel · 15th January 2006, 06:45 PM

Hello, this just ended http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 and I'm very curious to know what it is. The bolster and handle type relate it to the khyber/choora/kard family but I've never seen one like it. The sickle form is quite appealing, and it seems well made with delicate work on the tang and bolster. Wouldn't be just a common sickle would it?

Regards,
Manolo

nechesh · 15th January 2006, 06:56 PM

Well Artzi seems to know what it is since he won the auction. Perhaps he will post his thoughts here.

It looks more like an argricultural tool than a weapon to me.

Rick · 15th January 2006, 07:19 PM

It looks Central Asian ; reminds me somewhat of Bokharan work ; possibly some sort of variation on a Bank (the sickle weapon of India) ?

Nechesh , from the decoration I get the impression that this was made to harvest humans .

Oriental-Arms · 15th January 2006, 10:23 PM

We decided to go for it out of curiosity and because we did not know for sure what it is. When we receive it we wil research it and will gladly post here our thoughts .

Emanuel · 16th January 2006, 04:56 AM

Ah, Oriental-Arms had some similar pieces http://www.oriental-arms.co.il/searc...nk&s.x=0&s.y=0 but varying to some degree.
I find such sickle-shaped weapons fascinating, and I've always wondered about their effectiveness. The ebay examble is less curved and some sort of draw cut or even stabbing seem feasible. The Oriental-Arms examples have extreme curvatures and certainly don't seem to be intended for stabbing, so how were they used? If one just hooks onto an opponent's limb or extremity and pull, does the cut produce sufficient damage?

not2sharp · 16th January 2006, 09:27 AM

It looks like a corvo. Perhaps a modern custom rendition of the style.

n2s

RobT · 17th January 2006, 02:28 AM

Hi all,
Given the ferrule's similarity to those found on choora and khyber knives, I would vote for north India/Afghanistan. Stone on pg 93 lists a type of knife called a bank and further references the Wallace Catalogue for other forms of knife with this name . Perhaps this is a bank variant? (I think "bank" means curved.)
Sincerely,
RobT

Rick · 17th January 2006, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobT

Hi all,
Given the ferrule's similarity to those found on choora and khyber knives, I would vote for north India/Afghanistan. Stone on pg 93 lists a type of knife called a bank and further references the Wallace Catalogue for other forms of knife with this name . Perhaps this is a bank variant? (I think "bank" means curved.)
Sincerely,
RobT

That makes two votes for a bank variant .

IMO too much Central Asian influence in the design to be a corvo .
Betting it's a wootz blade .

15th January 2006, 06:45 PM	#1
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Strange Persian? Hello, this just ended http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 and I'm very curious to know what it is. The bolster and handle type relate it to the khyber/choora/kard family but I've never seen one like it. The sickle form is quite appealing, and it seems well made with delicate work on the tang and bolster. Wouldn't be just a common sickle would it? Regards, Manolo

15th January 2006, 07:19 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Impressions It looks Central Asian ; reminds me somewhat of Bokharan work ; possibly some sort of variation on a Bank (the sickle weapon of India) ? Nechesh , from the decoration I get the impression that this was made to harvest humans .

15th January 2006, 10:23 PM	#4
Oriental-Arms Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Haifa, Israel Posts: 183	What is it? We decided to go for it out of curiosity and because we did not know for sure what it is. When we receive it we wil research it and will gladly post here our thoughts .

17th January 2006, 02:28 AM	#7
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 493	take it to the bank? Hi all, Given the ferrule's similarity to those found on choora and khyber knives, I would vote for north India/Afghanistan. Stone on pg 93 lists a type of knife called a bank and further references the Wallace Catalogue for other forms of knife with this name . Perhaps this is a bank variant? (I think "bank" means curved.) Sincerely, RobT

15th January 2006, 06:56 PM	#2
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Well Artzi seems to know what it is since he won the auction. Perhaps he will post his thoughts here. It looks more like an argricultural tool than a weapon to me.

16th January 2006, 04:56 AM	#5
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Ah, Oriental-Arms had some similar pieces http://www.oriental-arms.co.il/searc...nk&s.x=0&s.y=0 but varying to some degree. I find such sickle-shaped weapons fascinating, and I've always wondered about their effectiveness. The ebay examble is less curved and some sort of draw cut or even stabbing seem feasible. The Oriental-Arms examples have extreme curvatures and certainly don't seem to be intended for stabbing, so how were they used? If one just hooks onto an opponent's limb or extremity and pull, does the cut produce sufficient damage?

16th January 2006, 09:27 AM	#6
not2sharp Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 210	It looks like a corvo. Perhaps a modern custom rendition of the style. n2s