Tangguh records

Jean · 31st October 2020, 11:48 AM

Dear friends,
I hope that all of you and your families are withstanding well this new confinement period ahead of us....
A close friend of mine from Solo passed me a very interesting booklet (in Javanese language and tranlated into bahasa Indonesia) containing the tangguh records from the late Wirasukagda, who was the Chief empu at the Surakarta Hadiningrat Palace during the reign of Pakubuwana X (1893-1939).
This booklet is unique as for each tangguh, it describes the features of the krisses made by the various empus of the period, so not only the general ones as found in the reference Javanese kris books such as Keris Jawa and the EK. Of course it does not mean that the descriptions of the krisses attributed to the periods before the Mataram kingdoms are accurate (legendary?) but it constitutes the best information source about tangguh which I ever met.
The described tangguh start with Pajajaran and end with Surakarta PBX, with the notable exception of Yogyakarta.

I am starting the translation of the booklet into English but this will be a very difficult task for me because of my basic level in bahasa Indonesia, and the double translation from Javanese to Indonesian.
Has any of you got an English translation of this booklet which he could share with us?
Best regards

A. G. Maisey · 31st October 2020, 12:15 PM

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kai · 1st November 2020, 08:32 AM

Hello Alan,

I assume you know this work quite well. Is anything known how this information got compiled and published?

I know one can't learn tangguh from a book - how do the given criteria vibe with what you've learnt though?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Regards,
Kai

Mickey the Finn · 1st November 2020, 10:08 AM

Error or not, I myself would not mind having a complete edition/copy of this booklet to study for myself, if only primarily to help in understanding Bahasa Indonesia.
Even if it's not "hard data", keris lore usually makes for fascinating reading. If you know of anywhere I might access the complete text online, I'd be grateful.
A search of JSTOR yielded absolutely nothing, even with the alternate spellings I tried.
Thank you.
Mickey

A. G. Maisey · 1st November 2020, 11:57 AM

Kai, Jean introduced this subject and I think that it might be nice if he expanded a little bit on it before I make any comments.

kai · 1st November 2020, 12:07 PM

Thanks for your consideration, Alan!

Jean, is it mentioned who did the translation into BI?

Regards,
Kai

31st October 2020, 11:48 AM	#1
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Tangguh records Dear friends, I hope that all of you and your families are withstanding well this new confinement period ahead of us.... A close friend of mine from Solo passed me a very interesting booklet (in Javanese language and tranlated into bahasa Indonesia) containing the tangguh records from the late Wirasukagda, who was the Chief empu at the Surakarta Hadiningrat Palace during the reign of Pakubuwana X (1893-1939). This booklet is unique as for each tangguh, it describes the features of the krisses made by the various empus of the period, so not only the general ones as found in the reference Javanese kris books such as Keris Jawa and the EK. Of course it does not mean that the descriptions of the krisses attributed to the periods before the Mataram kingdoms are accurate (legendary?) but it constitutes the best information source about tangguh which I ever met. The described tangguh start with Pajajaran and end with Surakarta PBX, with the notable exception of Yogyakarta. I am starting the translation of the booklet into English but this will be a very difficult task for me because of my basic level in bahasa Indonesia, and the double translation from Javanese to Indonesian. Has any of you got an English translation of this booklet which he could share with us? Best regards Attached Images Last edited by Jean; 31st October 2020 at 12:42 PM.

31st October 2020, 12:15 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,877	error

1st November 2020, 08:32 AM	#3
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Hello Alan, I assume you know this work quite well. Is anything known how this information got compiled and published? I know one can't learn tangguh from a book - how do the given criteria vibe with what you've learnt though? Thanks a lot in advance! Regards, Kai

1st November 2020, 10:08 AM	#4
Mickey the Finn Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 90	Error or not, I myself would not mind having a complete edition/copy of this booklet to study for myself, if only primarily to help in understanding Bahasa Indonesia. Even if it's not "hard data", keris lore usually makes for fascinating reading. If you know of anywhere I might access the complete text online, I'd be grateful. A search of JSTOR yielded absolutely nothing, even with the alternate spellings I tried. Thank you. Mickey

1st November 2020, 11:57 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,877	Kai, Jean introduced this subject and I think that it might be nice if he expanded a little bit on it before I make any comments.

1st November 2020, 12:07 PM	#6
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Thanks for your consideration, Alan! Jean, is it mentioned who did the translation into BI? Regards, Kai