Bedouin? Saber

[RobT]

Happy New Year All,

I am posting this allegedly Bedouin saber to see if its features will serve to confirm that it is indeed Bedouin and because the sheath has a rather unexpected binding. The blade is 28.25" long with 2 fullers (Montmornecy style). On both sides of the blade near the hilt is scribed a sun and a striking bird (either a raptor or gamecock). The hilt scales are cow horn and are attached to the tang with 5 steel rivets (2 are mostly hidden by the guard and pommel bands). The 3 fully exposed rivets were originally surrounded by brass panels (on both sides) but now only remnants of the brass remain. Brass bands encircle the guard and the grip but the pommel band is copper. A handwritten (apparently in magic marker) inscription on the back of the sheath throat says, "3/16/71 Bedouin Sword Presented to Cody by". The sheath is wood covered with what appears to be reptile hide. It has a brass chape and throat. There are also 2 brass bands (one of which has been soldered to the throat. Large amounts of solder on the bands (on the convex side) indicate that suspension devices were once present). The REALLY odd feature is that the hide has been stitched together with spirals of metal wire (apparently copper) as I have seen done on kinjals. A few people have commented that the sword has a shashka look about it.

Sincerely,
RobT

[kronckew]

Looks much like my Bedouin sabre (missing a band on the pommel area) and my Bedu yataghan. Both have extensive inscribed decorations not apparent in the overall pics.


More in their earlier posts at:


https://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showt...hlight=bedouin
and

[kronckew]

Can't find earlier post on the bedu yat, so here's some more shots of the markings:

[RobT]

Kronckew,

Thanks a lot. Your blade is a close match to mine (albeit a good bit more upscale). From what I can see, your sheath is stitched like mine also. I find it rather odd that such disparate groups as Russians and Mediterranean/Africans could come up with a similar form of stitching.

Sincerely,
RobT

[David R]

Originally Posted by RobT

Kronckew,

Thanks a lot. Your blade is a close match to mine (albeit a good bit more upscale). From what I can see, your sheath is stitched like mine also. I find it rather odd that such disparate groups as Russians and Mediterranean/Africans could come up with a similar form of stitching.

Sincerely,
RobT

A common Muslim tradition??

[RobT]

David R,

A good point. I hadn't thought of a Moslem commonality but if it were true, why only two rather rather isolated instances instead of a broad swath across different Moslem cultures? One would expect some geographical and/or cultural links. Perhaps they are there but no one has seen fit to mention them explicitly as it pertains to this type of stitching.

Sincerely,
RobT

[Ren Ren]

Originally Posted by RobT

Kronckew,
From what I can see, your sheath is stitched like mine also. I find it rather odd that such disparate groups as Russians and Mediterranean/Africans could come up with a similar form of stitching.

Sincerely,
RobT

Products made using this stitching technique were well known in Russia under the name "Kazan work". Kazan, the capital of Tatarstan, is the largest leather and leather goods manufacturing center with over 1000 years of history. Probably only Cordoba in Spain can compare with it in Europe.
Also this stitching technique was used in Ottoman Turkey, Algeria and Morocco.
As far as I know, Lilia Sattarova is studying the history of this technique and some of her works have been published in English.

Sincerely,
Serge

[David R]

I have just remembered that I have a couple of examples of the sewing style in my collection, one of them for the scabbard of a Yataghan, and the other a late period Turkish Kilij.

Looking at that last photo, I think the mark is a rather ham-fisted attempt at a "Tughra"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tughra