Kalkan shield

Kubur · 7th October 2020, 07:48 PM

I decided to go out of the woods when I saw the discussion on the kalkan shield.

The kalkan is NOT an Ottoman shield. It's a Kurdish shield.

It's the reason why you can find it in Turkey.

The only similarity with Ottoman shield is the construction technique, the shield is made of straw.

The Ottoman Turkish shield is different.

Here is my kalkan and a Kurdish chap with a buckler / kalkan.

francantolin · 7th October 2020, 08:09 PM

Thumbs up !
The one you have is really nice ! !
I Like the raw iron-steel structure

Martin Lubojacky · 8th October 2020, 09:46 AM

Hello Kubur.
Thank you for interesting pictures. Please, could you post some pictures of a typical Ottoman shield ? And also how it was/is called (if not kalkan) ? Thank you.

Best regards,

Martin

Kubur · 8th October 2020, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin Lubojacky

Hello Kubur.
Thank you for interesting pictures. Please, could you post some pictures of a typical Ottoman shield ? And also how it was/is called (if not kalkan) ? Thank you.

Best regards,

Martin

Hi Martin,

Yes I can.
As you can see the Ottoman shield is much bigger 40 to 50cm.
The wickerwork is much better on the Turkish Ottoman shields.
Only the central part is made of iron, there is no radial bars around.

Very interesting question about the name, because actually (as you know) the name is the same
at least for the 19th century....
I don't know before the 19th c.
and I don't know about the Kurdish name...

If you google Ottoman shield
you will see a lot of Kurdish kalkans.
Why?
Because they are very common and easy to find;
and for a dealer it's always better to sell an Ottoman shield...
I'm very happy with my tribal Kurdish shield.

Martin Lubojacky · 8th October 2020, 02:15 PM

Thank you Kubur

Battara · 9th October 2020, 11:39 PM

If this is Kurdish, then what does a Turkish shied look like?

Philip · 10th October 2020, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

If this is Kurdish, then what does a Turkish shied look like?

See the two images in post #4 on this thread.

Battara · 10th October 2020, 07:47 AM

Oh I see - I missed that. Thanks.

So the so-called Ottoman "Parade" shields are actually run of the mill Ottoman shields...............

Kubur · 10th October 2020, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Oh I see - I missed that. Thanks.

So the so-called Ottoman "Parade" shields are actually run of the mill Ottoman shields...............

Hi!
Where are the parade shields?

7th October 2020, 07:48 PM	#1
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Kalkan shield I decided to go out of the woods when I saw the discussion on the kalkan shield. The kalkan is NOT an Ottoman shield. It's a Kurdish shield. It's the reason why you can find it in Turkey. The only similarity with Ottoman shield is the construction technique, the shield is made of straw. The Ottoman Turkish shield is different. Here is my kalkan and a Kurdish chap with a buckler / kalkan. Attached Images

7th October 2020, 08:09 PM	#2
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 874	Thumbs up ! The one you have is really nice ! ! I Like the raw iron-steel structure

8th October 2020, 09:46 AM	#3
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 841	Hello Kubur. Thank you for interesting pictures. Please, could you post some pictures of a typical Ottoman shield ? And also how it was/is called (if not kalkan) ? Thank you. Best regards, Martin

8th October 2020, 02:15 PM	#5
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 841	Thank you Kubur

9th October 2020, 11:39 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	If this is Kurdish, then what does a Turkish shied look like?

10th October 2020, 07:47 AM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Oh I see - I missed that. Thanks. So the so-called Ottoman "Parade" shields are actually run of the mill Ottoman shields...............