TEPPO WITH HEAVY BARREL NEED TRANSLATION

Cerjak · 25th April 2015, 02:12 PM

It is a new addition in my collection a very nice teppo with heavy barrel.
Overall 97 cm.
It would be great if a menber could give me a translation for the marks found on the barrel
Any comment on it would be welcome.
Best CERJAK

Cerjak · 25th April 2015, 02:46 PM

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Cerjak · 26th April 2015, 08:33 PM

I found similar teppo classified as Mino Tetsupo
The matchlocks made at Mino are heavy and appear to be very durable .
I seems that there is'nt so much information and pictures about this Mino Tetsupo type.

estcrh · 27th April 2015, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cerjak

It is a new addition in my collection a very nice teppo with heavy barrel.

Very nice, it appears to be missing the barrel protector and wedge that holds it in place, have you tried to remove the barrel to see if it is signed? It also appears to be a "Seki" teppo and not "Mino".

Cerjak · 27th April 2015, 05:17 PM

Hi estcrh,

Thank you for your comment ,It is still not clear for me ,could you tell me which are the differences between this 2 types in my eyes and based only on the following pictures it seems to be the same ?
I will try to remove the barrel to see if there is a signature.

From Nihonto forum member's I had this translation :
The numbers say 壬申 802.
This gun barrel was recorded in one of the Meiji general registration round-ups starting in 1873.
Probably the famous first one in 1873, as that was a Jinshin 壬申 year.

新治懸　Niihari Ken, the old/extinct name for an area straddling Ibaraki and Chiba.

Best CERJAK

estcrh · 27th April 2015, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerjak

Hi estcrh,

Thank you for your comment ,It is still not clear for me ,could you tell me which are the differences between this 2 types in my eyes and based only on the following pictures it seems to be the same ?

Cerjak, were are you getting your pictures from, I think they are mislabled, this is directly from the original web site.

http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Black.../varieties.htm

Cerjak · 27th April 2015, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by estcrh

Cerjak, were are you getting your pictures from, I think they are mislabled, this is directly from the original web site.

http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Black.../varieties.htm

I got it from this site

http://www.japaneseweapons.net/hinawajyu/index.htm

estcrh · 27th April 2015, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerjak

I got it from this site

http://www.japaneseweapons.net/hinawajyu/index.htm

There seems to be some sort of descrepency.

rickystl · 27th April 2015, 06:40 PM

Hi Cerjak. That is a really nice Teppo. And appears in good condition. The engraving on the barrel is done in very good taste. Your's is my favorite style with the iron trigger guard and the fancy trigger. Again, nice addition.
While I can't help with any translation/specific identification, there is a good chance there is a maker ID or other information on one of the lower flats of the barrel, behind the lock. There was on my Teppo. If you want some help taking the barrel off, let me know. It's a bit tricky. Took me a half day to figure it out. LOL

and I have photos. The barrel does not come off the way you would first guess. Rick.

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Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	I found similar teppo classified as Mino Tetsupo The matchlocks made at Mino are heavy and appear to be very durable . I seems that there is'nt so much information and pictures about this Mino Tetsupo type. Attached Images

27th April 2015, 05:17 PM	#6
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	Hi estcrh, Thank you for your comment ,It is still not clear for me ,could you tell me which are the differences between this 2 types in my eyes and based only on the following pictures it seems to be the same ? I will try to remove the barrel to see if there is a signature. From Nihonto forum member's I had this translation : The numbers say 壬申 802. This gun barrel was recorded in one of the Meiji general registration round-ups starting in 1873. Probably the famous first one in 1873, as that was a Jinshin 壬申 year. 新治懸　Niihari Ken, the old/extinct name for an area straddling Ibaraki and Chiba. Best CERJAK Attached Images

27th April 2015, 06:40 PM	#10
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,623	Hi Cerjak. That is a really nice Teppo. And appears in good condition. The engraving on the barrel is done in very good taste. Your's is my favorite style with the iron trigger guard and the fancy trigger. Again, nice addition. While I can't help with any translation/specific identification, there is a good chance there is a maker ID or other information on one of the lower flats of the barrel, behind the lock. There was on my Teppo. If you want some help taking the barrel off, let me know. It's a bit tricky. Took me a half day to figure it out. LOL and I have photos. The barrel does not come off the way you would first guess. Rick.