Blunderbuss etching identification query

sway · 4th November 2010, 05:00 PM

I would welcome suggestions on the originating culture of the etchings on this 18th C blunderbuss, puchased in the UK and believed to be English-made for the colonies.

The butt is carved with a rose on one side and swirls on the other and the stock includes ivory/bone/antler inlay. The barrel is extensive etched with three human-like figures with clubs and tails, and a dog.

This might belong more on the European arms forum, but we are more interested in identifying the ethnographic carvings. Any ideas?

Atlantia · 7th November 2010, 01:12 PM

Hi Sway,

Sorry to see no repies to your thread. I think you should re-post in the European section as this is an interesting piece and deserves comment.
Also some close-ups of the lock would be nice. I don't get an English feel about it though.
And welcome to the forums by the way.

Regards
Gene

Norman McCormick · 7th November 2010, 01:33 PM

Hi Sway,
I think this was made for the Turkish market first half 19thC. Without makers marks on the lock or barrel it would be difficult to pin down a country of origin. I would suspect it would be one of the more prolific 'arms exporters' e.g. Belgium, Great Britain etc. it might conceivably be a mix of local and imported parts. If you can remove the barrel there may be makers marks on the underside. Nice piece and welcome to the Forum.
Regards,
Norman.

Rick · 8th November 2010, 01:31 AM

Could the decoration on the barrel be somehow related to this piece ?
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=flintlock

4th November 2010, 05:00 PM	#1
sway Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1	Blunderbuss etching identification query I would welcome suggestions on the originating culture of the etchings on this 18th C blunderbuss, puchased in the UK and believed to be English-made for the colonies. The butt is carved with a rose on one side and swirls on the other and the stock includes ivory/bone/antler inlay. The barrel is extensive etched with three human-like figures with clubs and tails, and a dog. This might belong more on the European arms forum, but we are more interested in identifying the ethnographic carvings. Any ideas? Attached Images

7th November 2010, 01:33 PM	#3
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,598	Hi Sway, I think this was made for the Turkish market first half 19thC. Without makers marks on the lock or barrel it would be difficult to pin down a country of origin. I would suspect it would be one of the more prolific 'arms exporters' e.g. Belgium, Great Britain etc. it might conceivably be a mix of local and imported parts. If you can remove the barrel there may be makers marks on the underside. Nice piece and welcome to the Forum. Regards, Norman. Last edited by Norman McCormick; 7th November 2010 at 01:58 PM.

7th November 2010, 01:12 PM	#2
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Hi Sway, Sorry to see no repies to your thread. I think you should re-post in the European section as this is an interesting piece and deserves comment. Also some close-ups of the lock would be nice. I don't get an English feel about it though. And welcome to the forums by the way. Regards Gene

8th November 2010, 01:31 AM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,294	Could the decoration on the barrel be somehow related to this piece ? http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=flintlock