Indian/Afghan/Islamic Flintlocks & Mathclocks. Any interest?

Atlantia · 21st June 2008, 02:12 PM

Just wondered. I've always liked these things and you get a lot of 'bang for your buck' anyone interested in a discussion of them>?
If so I'll take some pictures of the few I've got at the moment :-)

ward · 21st June 2008, 03:17 PM

Yes I have a large collection of Indo-persian matchlocks and flintlocks and would like to see some other collections.

Atlantia · 21st June 2008, 06:11 PM

LOL, don't get your hopes up too much, I've only got three at present!
I'll take some pics in a bit and post them.
BRB

Atlantia · 21st June 2008, 08:59 PM

Heres the only flint I've got. Its huge, if it had a conventional style stock it would be 'brown bess' sized.
I think its Indian?

Atlantia · 21st June 2008, 09:00 PM

the concept 'Less is more' was lost on the maker clearly ;-)

ward · 21st June 2008, 09:09 PM

Afghan 1900-1940. The barrell and lock may be older. Nice showy piece
I have a few similar. If you show closeups of lock and barrell will give more info. These guns were still in use thru the 1990's

mattf33 · 16th July 2008, 04:15 PM

That is an awesome collection. Here are some pics of my Afghan Jezail. Finally figured out how to compress them so i can post. I have 2 others that are similar to the ornate display gun in the first pic of this post. I am currently in Afghanistan and have been collecting these guns and shipping them back home as well as antique powder measures and powder flasks.

mattf33 · 16th July 2008, 04:30 PM

couple more

chevalier · 17th July 2008, 01:59 PM

...so has anyone ever fired one of these?

Atlantia · 17th July 2008, 02:28 PM

Thats a nice one Chevalier!
Similar lock to mine.
Lovely carved steel ramrod!!! I'm gonna have to make ramrods for all of mine! 0 out of 3 still having them!

I've never fired one of these.
But my interest in guns stems from when I was a kid and a family friend (huge gun collector) let me fire a big flint dueling pistol (really nice early one, be worth a bundle now, he had several cased pairs).
I was about 8 or 9 and it was almost as long as my arm.
He used to shoot a railway sleeper in a big double garage with his guns (it was the 70s! I know the police would shoot him for that now).
I pulled the trigger (struggling to hold it out with both arms) and it went 'CLICK'.......'Fizzzzzzzzz'........and in that second I thought "hmm, its not going to fire" and relaxed....
BOOOM!
LOL.
Very scary, smelly, loud!

And there was a new beam of sunlight like a mini spotlight coming through the back wall of the garage.

Loved them ever since!
Never fired another sadly.
I've got a beautiful muff-pistol which would probobly take the pressure.
In fact I have a matchlock which might!
Hmmm, I'll post pictures of them later.

ward · 17th July 2008, 05:59 PM

When I mas much younger and stupider I fired one of the Indian matchlocks at the range. firing a 230 year old weapon is not something I would recommend to anyone. You lower the match into the pan wait a few seconds than the pan ignites and then in a few seconds the weapon fires a 70 caliber ball, I never managed to hit a target with it. Now somethng fun to fire is the broomhandle pistol or the german lugar.

21st June 2008, 02:12 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Indian/Afghan/Islamic Flintlocks & Matchlocks. Any interest? Just wondered. I've always liked these things and you get a lot of 'bang for your buck' anyone interested in a discussion of them>? If so I'll take some pictures of the few I've got at the moment :-) Last edited by Atlantia; 21st June 2008 at 11:11 PM.

16th July 2008, 04:15 PM	#7
mattf33 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: tennessee Posts: 6	That is an awesome collection. Here are some pics of my Afghan Jezail. Finally figured out how to compress them so i can post. I have 2 others that are similar to the ornate display gun in the first pic of this post. I am currently in Afghanistan and have been collecting these guns and shipping them back home as well as antique powder measures and powder flasks. Attached Images

16th July 2008, 04:30 PM	#8
mattf33 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: tennessee Posts: 6	couple more Attached Images

21st June 2008, 03:17 PM	#2
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	Yes I have a large collection of Indo-persian matchlocks and flintlocks and would like to see some other collections.

21st June 2008, 06:11 PM	#3
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	LOL, don't get your hopes up too much, I've only got three at present! I'll take some pics in a bit and post them. BRB

21st June 2008, 08:59 PM	#4
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Heres the only flint I've got. Its huge, if it had a conventional style stock it would be 'brown bess' sized. I think its Indian?

21st June 2008, 09:00 PM	#5
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	the concept 'Less is more' was lost on the maker clearly ;-)

21st June 2008, 09:09 PM	#6
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	Afghan 1900-1940. The barrell and lock may be older. Nice showy piece I have a few similar. If you show closeups of lock and barrell will give more info. These guns were still in use thru the 1990's

17th July 2008, 01:59 PM	#9
chevalier Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 119	...so has anyone ever fired one of these?

17th July 2008, 02:28 PM	#10
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Thats a nice one Chevalier! Similar lock to mine. Lovely carved steel ramrod!!! I'm gonna have to make ramrods for all of mine! 0 out of 3 still having them! I've never fired one of these. But my interest in guns stems from when I was a kid and a family friend (huge gun collector) let me fire a big flint dueling pistol (really nice early one, be worth a bundle now, he had several cased pairs). I was about 8 or 9 and it was almost as long as my arm. He used to shoot a railway sleeper in a big double garage with his guns (it was the 70s! I know the police would shoot him for that now). I pulled the trigger (struggling to hold it out with both arms) and it went 'CLICK'.......'Fizzzzzzzzz'........and in that second I thought "hmm, its not going to fire" and relaxed.... BOOOM! LOL. Very scary, smelly, loud! And there was a new beam of sunlight like a mini spotlight coming through the back wall of the garage. Loved them ever since! Never fired another sadly. I've got a beautiful muff-pistol which would probobly take the pressure. In fact I have a matchlock which might! Hmmm, I'll post pictures of them later.

17th July 2008, 05:59 PM	#11
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	When I mas much younger and stupider I fired one of the Indian matchlocks at the range. firing a 230 year old weapon is not something I would recommend to anyone. You lower the match into the pan wait a few seconds than the pan ignites and then in a few seconds the weapon fires a 70 caliber ball, I never managed to hit a target with it. Now somethng fun to fire is the broomhandle pistol or the german lugar.