An unusual Luzon sword.

kino · 13th June 2022, 06:00 PM

Unusual to me since I don’t recall ever seeing one that had a similar blade profile.
Blade is close to 25 inches in length.

xasterix · 14th June 2022, 12:58 AM

That's a very interesting blade. I'm guessing the assembly was pre-1900 Central Luzon, Spanish or First Republic era. The fuller feature is curious- probably a one-of customization requested by the owner who's encountered Moro blades with such (the fuller outline reminds me of those on kris). Is there a false edge? I'm still on the fence whether the blade is also pure Luzon or something modified from Visayas (Luzon blades for that era are assymetrical edge grind- which I call a "fake" chisel. Visayas blades are "true" chisel edge grind).

kino · 14th June 2022, 04:41 AM

The false edge measures at ~10 inches.
According to The seller, Peter A., this was collected in the 19th century.

Ian · 14th June 2022, 06:33 AM

The down-turned quillion and fuller suggest a Chinese influence to me. Also, does anyone think the bade may have been reworked or shortened a bit. The fuller just seems to trail off into the tip.

chmorshuutz · 14th June 2022, 03:05 PM

Makes me wonder, it seems fuller is a very rare or rather unusual feature for Luzon blades, although Tagalog has an archaic native term for it which is sanay, according to Vocabulario de la Lengua Tagala.

kino · 14th June 2022, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

The down-turned quillion and fuller suggest a Chinese influence to me.

The down turned quillion does look Chinese influenced.

CharlesS · 17th June 2022, 12:13 PM

From the pics, the fullers look to be beautifully executed.

13th June 2022, 06:00 PM	#1
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,002	An unusual Luzon sword. Unusual to me since I don’t recall ever seeing one that had a similar blade profile. Blade is close to 25 inches in length. Attached Images

14th June 2022, 12:58 AM	#2
xasterix Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 653	That's a very interesting blade. I'm guessing the assembly was pre-1900 Central Luzon, Spanish or First Republic era. The fuller feature is curious- probably a one-of customization requested by the owner who's encountered Moro blades with such (the fuller outline reminds me of those on kris). Is there a false edge? I'm still on the fence whether the blade is also pure Luzon or something modified from Visayas (Luzon blades for that era are assymetrical edge grind- which I call a "fake" chisel. Visayas blades are "true" chisel edge grind).

14th June 2022, 04:41 AM	#3
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,002	The false edge measures at ~10 inches. According to The seller, Peter A., this was collected in the 19th century.

14th June 2022, 06:33 AM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,200	The down-turned quillion and fuller suggest a Chinese influence to me. Also, does anyone think the bade may have been reworked or shortened a bit. The fuller just seems to trail off into the tip.

14th June 2022, 03:05 PM	#5
chmorshuutz Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Posts: 54	Makes me wonder, it seems fuller is a very rare or rather unusual feature for Luzon blades, although Tagalog has an archaic native term for it which is sanay, according to Vocabulario de la Lengua Tagala.

17th June 2022, 12:13 PM	#7
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	From the pics, the fullers look to be beautifully executed.