Maguindanao Kris with Fine Okir Hilt and Ivory Pommel

F. de Luzon · 29th March 2018, 04:46 PM

Hello all! Here's a Maguindano kris with fine okir on the hilt, and an ivory pommel. As you can see, the pommel looks very old. I would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.

Fernando

kronckew · 29th March 2018, 04:50 PM

Cool, High class Datu warrior's weapon, love the etch showing the lamination/inserted hard edge.

F. de Luzon · 29th March 2018, 04:53 PM

Hi Kronckew,

I'll post some close-ups of the blade for you tomorrow. Thanks for your insights.

Fernando

Battara · 29th March 2018, 05:23 PM

What a nice piece!

Actually I would say that the blade is Maguindanao, while the hilt is Maranao or made by a Maranao craftsman (based on the Maranao okir). This is not unheard of since these tribal areas were next to each other.

Also it looks like the surface of the orange bands of the hilt are made of suassa.

Is there a scabbard?

F. de Luzon · 29th March 2018, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

What a nice piece!

Actually I would say that the blade is Maguindanao, while the hilt is Maranao or made by a Maranao craftsman (based on the Maranao okir). This is not unheard of since these tribal areas were next to each other.

Also it looks like the surface of the orange bands of the hilt are made of suassa.

Is there a scabbard?

Hi Battara,

I was wondering if that hilt was Maranao. It comes with a Sulu style scabbard. So, it's a Maguindanao blade with a Maranao hilt and Sulu scabbard. Is it a cross over?

Regarding the hilt, I cleaned it and it turned white, almost like silver, then went back to this color after a few months. Is that a characteristic of swassa?

Thank you!

Fernando

Battara · 29th March 2018, 08:41 PM

Oh I see...........well it might not be suassa then, but a silver/copper mix to look like suassa. It will take testing by a jeweler to be sure which one.

Please post the scabbard so I can better determine if Sulu or what.

Crossovers are not unheard of........

29th March 2018, 04:46 PM	#1
F. de Luzon Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 184	Maguindanao Kris with Fine Okir Hilt and Ivory Pommel Hello all! Here's a Maguindano kris with fine okir on the hilt, and an ivory pommel. As you can see, the pommel looks very old. I would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks. Fernando Attached Images Last edited by F. de Luzon; 30th March 2018 at 12:16 PM.

29th March 2018, 04:50 PM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,183	Cool, High class Datu warrior's weapon, love the etch showing the lamination/inserted hard edge.

29th March 2018, 04:53 PM	#3
F. de Luzon Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 184	Hi Kronckew, I'll post some close-ups of the blade for you tomorrow. Thanks for your insights. Fernando

29th March 2018, 05:23 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	What a nice piece! Actually I would say that the blade is Maguindanao, while the hilt is Maranao or made by a Maranao craftsman (based on the Maranao okir). This is not unheard of since these tribal areas were next to each other. Also it looks like the surface of the orange bands of the hilt are made of suassa. Is there a scabbard?

29th March 2018, 08:41 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	Oh I see...........well it might not be suassa then, but a silver/copper mix to look like suassa. It will take testing by a jeweler to be sure which one. Please post the scabbard so I can better determine if Sulu or what. Crossovers are not unheard of........