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29th November 2023, 08:39 PM | #1 |
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Beibut kindjal with early european blade ? Origin ?
Hello dear members,
It was a long time I didn't post anything. Here is an interesting long beibut dagger I found that I would like to show you: large military type model but with horn handle and a ''15'' written on it. A mix between europeans and east european-asian influences Under the scabbard, an interesting blade, I hadn't seen it before I got it, a nice surprise ! It is very rusty but with an unusual very large yelman and a Passau wolf and the initials H and M and small crosses on both sides. a very old blade ? the tip- bouterolle also with the leather that goes over the leather sheath seems to me unusual with ''classics'' kindjal and reminds me 18th-19rh Prussian-Austrian short swords models. Here some pictures |
29th November 2023, 08:43 PM | #2 |
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I forgot the size: 65cm long 70 with scabbard
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30th November 2023, 12:41 AM | #3 |
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Most likely explanation would be a cut down shashka blade. European markings, including the running wolf were widely copied in the Caucasus.
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30th November 2023, 10:24 AM | #4 |
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Thank youbfor your message TVV,
yes it can be a shortened shashka blade, I rarely seen shashka blade with such Ã* large yelman If it's the case, the black-smith has reshaped all metal hilt part fo perfectlyr suit the grip shape, I'll post some pictures Kind regards |
30th November 2023, 02:22 PM | #5 |
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How about a broken blade not a cut down one? Is there evidence of a scarf weld where the blade joins the hilt? I have read that some Caucasian cultures carried a second shorter blade as a backup often repurposed from a broken blade.
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30th November 2023, 05:31 PM | #6 |
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Hello
It seems to be the ''regular'' tip of the blade/shortened sword with the large yelman but it wasn't welded to a separate metal hilt. A single piece of metal |
30th November 2023, 06:00 PM | #7 |
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Perhaps these two pictures are better...
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