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I wonder if, by the pictures and details, you Gentlemen could tell me where this one comes from and its estimated age. In fact judging by the scabbard i would, within my limitations, place it in the (end)18th century. On the other hand, i see by some marks on the leather in that, the locket had a previous fixation, of one centimeter distant from the present one, which i would not assume this scabbard to be from a different knife but an 'elongation' of its length due to leather extreme shrinkage ... if you Gentlemen agree to that.
I am less surprised with the blade deep wide fuller than with is strong roundish back, both stopping less than 1/4 from the tip. It would be so nice to receive your comments. Blade length: 26 cms. Total length:37 cms. Width at forte: 37 m/m. Thickness at forte: 9 m/m. Wight: 357 grams. . . |
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I am no expert on such kifes but as there is no ricasso and no mark or stamp of a maker, I think that the blade is the tip of a former sabre or sword.
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Thank you for your input, Udo but ... i don't see the present format suggesting the final section of a previous sword. A sword with such blade back would be tremendous. But i might be wrong, though. I wouldn't reject it could be some other kind of modification... but which ?
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the blade looks like a repurposed bayonet blade , and the grip , crossguard & scabbard are reminiscent of hunting knives made in India for sale to British officers and hunters in the late 19th / early 20th C.
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Hello,
I think a part of a pipe-back blade was repurposed in the 19th century here. For me it is difficult to say where and when exactly the dagger was made, but it doesn't look like a typical German or French piece. Regards Robin Last edited by Gonzoadler; 5th November 2021 at 11:08 AM. |
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Thanks again for your judgements.
I can now follow Robin's assumption that this would be a cut down part of a first quarter XIX century pipe-back sword blade; the back part, that is. I was skeptical of it being the tip section, as first suggested, due to its sturdy structure. I understand that they copy European style hunting knives in India for British customers, and not only, but i find it hard to digest that the guard+scabbard in this one do not come from somewhere in Europe. |
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