Keris info

[jor-el]

Dear all,

i would like firstly to congratulate you all for the very good site you have here. I 've seen a lot of people here with much knowledge in keris and because i recently have one, i would like your help with its characteristics (pamor-dapour etc.). If it is possible to help me with its age and the pamor spiritual power i'll owe you.

Best regards,
Themis

[Satria]

I think the information of your keris is :
Dapur : Kidang Soka with ganja wilut
Pamor : Wos wutah
Tangguh : I don't sure which era of your keris because not on hold. But in my opinion is 75% old keris.

If my opinion is mistake, please another members correct me.

[jor-el]

Thank you for your opinion Satria.
I was told that it is early 14th centrury (early Majabahit) and with pamor for protection.

BR,
Themis

[jor-el]

If somebody has another opinion please feel free to write it. Even if you have the same one.

Themis

[jor-el]

Does anybody know what kind is pamor Tundhung Musuh?
Does anybody have pictures with a keris with this pamor?

BR,
Themis

[Alam Shah]

Originally Posted by Satria

I think the information of your keris is :
Dapur : Kidang Soka with ganja wilut
Pamor : Wos wutah
Tangguh : I don't sure which era of your keris because not on hold. But in my opinion is 75% old keris.

Agreed with Satria,

Just to add a little.
Looks like a Surakarta blade with kembang kacang Nguku Bima.
Heavy wear on the 'dada', between luk 1 to 3, 3 to 5, 5 to 7 and 7 to 9.
Wear might be due to rust-removal and etching, over the years.

The ukiran (hilt) is of gaya Surakarta wanda Yudawinatan.

Tundung Mungsuh is a pamor pattern found on the 'ganja' area.
It looks like a sideways 'V'-shaped formation.
The point of the 'V'-shape is pointed toward the 'sirah cecak' area.
This pamor pattern is deemed suitable for those who are warriors.
The meaning of Tundung mungsuh in Javanese is literary 'to oust the enemy'.

BTW, this keris does not have pamor Tundung Mungsuh.

[jor-el]

Originally Posted by Alam Shah

Agreed with Satria,

Just to add a little.
Looks like a Surakarta blade with kembang kacang Nguku Bima.
Heavy wear on the 'dada', between luk 1 to 3, 3 to 5, 5 to 7 and 7 to 9.
Wear might be due to rust-removal and etching, over the years.

The ukiran (hilt) is of gaya Surakarta wanda Yudawinatan.

Tundung Mungsuh is a pamor pattern found on the 'ganja' area.
It looks like a sideways 'V'-shaped formation.
The point of the 'V'-shape is pointed toward the 'sirah cecak' area.
This pamor pattern is deemed suitable for those who are warriors.
The meaning of Tundung mungsuh in Javanese is literary 'to oust the enemy'.

BTW, this keris does not have pamor Tundung Mungsuh.

I thank you all for the valuable info. I am obliged to you.
Themis

[Sepang]

hai Alamshah
i believe this kind of material is much older than surakarta era. even the curve of the blade is more majapahit era than mataram , the mataram era keris curve is much deeper than majapahit , so i think i'm agree is this is a majapahit era keris.
thanks.

[jor-el]

Dear all,

i appreciate your help concerning my keris info. My initial on coming info is that it is majabahit or early majabahit and it has pamor tiban, difficult to be easily identified, but with ganja traces of pamor Tundhung Musuh. It means to push away (and spiritually is for protection).
Please take a look at it again and write whatever you believe it could help more. I already thank Alam Shah and Satria and Sepang for their help.

Really, Sepang for pamor and rest do you agree with the rest ones?

Themis

[Alam Shah]

Originally Posted by Sepang

hai Alamshah
i believe this kind of material is much older than surakarta era. even the curve of the blade is more majapahit era than mataram , the mataram era keris curve is much deeper than majapahit , so i think i'm agree is this is a majapahit era keris.
thanks.

Hi Sepang,
In terms of defining the tangguh, I would not know the difference between a majapahit era and a mataram era piece. If you know, kindly enlighthen us.
Thanks.