NAGA TRIBAL WEAPONS

VANDOO · 4th February 2015, 07:19 PM

I HAVE WHAT I THINK IS A OLDER FORM OF NAGA AX . THE BLADE IS 24.8 CM. X 12 CM AND THE TOTAL LEGNTH IS 50.2 CM. LONG TOTAL. WOOD HANDLE WITH SMOOTH WEAR AND HEAVY PATINA, FORGED IRON FERRULE AND BUTT STRAP. FROM A OLD DUTCH COLLECTION CIRCA 19TH CENTURY.
#1, #2. & #3. TWO PICTURES OF MY UNUSUAL AX. AND ONE PICTURE WITH
MY OTHER NAGA AXES FOR COMPARISON.
#4. OLD PICTURE OF NAGA WEAPONS WITH OLDER FORM OF
AX SIMULAR BUT NOT THE SAME AS MY EXAMPLE. CIRC 1873.
#5. ANOTHER OLD PICTURE OF NAGA WEAPONS EXAMPLES OF MANY FORMS
#6. NAGA WARRIORS
#7. KONYAK, NAGA
#8. NAGAS CIRCA 1930
#9.NAGAS
#10. NAGA DAO WITH UNUSUAL SCABBARD
#11. VARIOUS NAGA WEAPONS
#12. NAGA WARRIOR, OLD PICTURE
ALL OPINIONS AND INFORMATION WELCOME.

colin henshaw · 5th February 2015, 11:41 AM

Hi VANDOO, seems like only you and me...

Nice interesting piece, not sure if it is in fact Naga, the profile of the handle is different. Maybe Assam or elsewhere in South East Asia. If from an old Dutch collection, perhaps Indonesia somewhere. Hopefully, someone will know

trenchwarfare · 5th February 2015, 03:27 PM

I haven't said anything, cuz I don't have a clue. I like it. Somehow feels Cambodian to me.

David R · 5th February 2015, 03:39 PM

I could be wrong (I often am) but to me it looks more like one of the elaborate throwing knives/axes from Africa.........

VANDOO · 5th February 2015, 05:11 PM

THANKS! FOR THE REPLIES ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE AS I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING JUST LIKE IT IN ANY OF THE PLACES MENTIONED. (BUT THEN I HAVE NOT SEEN EVERYTHING YET

)
THE ONLY THING I AM SURE OF IS ITS OLDER THAN THE OTHER NAGA AXES I HAVE. MY KNOWLEGE OF ALL THINGS NAGA IS LIMITED AND THERE DOES SEEM TO BE QUITE A VARIETY OF WEAPONS SAID TO HAVE BEEN USED BY THE VARIOUS NAGA TRIBES IN SEVERAL AREAS. THE BLADE AND THE ABSENCE OF HAIR AND THE IRON FERRULES ON THE HANDLE DOES SET IT APART FROM TODAYS EXAMPLES. IF IT IS NAGA IT IS AN ATYPICAL FORM OR SOMETHING MODIFIED BY AN INDIVIDUAL.
I TOO AM REMINDED OF AFRICAN THROWING KNIVES BUT THE BALANCE IS ALL WRONG ON THIS ITEM. MOST AFRICAN THROWING KNIVES I HAVE SEEN ARE ALL IRON WITH A FIBER OR CLOTH WRAPPED GRIP.
I WILL USE THIS POST TO PUT ALL THE PICTURES OF NAGA ITEMS I HAVE FOR A REFERENCE WHICH CAN HOPEFULLY BE ADDED TO IN FUTURE.

VANDOO · 5th February 2015, 05:37 PM

NAGA PICTURES
#1. UNUSUAL FORM, KABUI DAO, SAID TO BE FOR DANCE.
#2. PLATE FROM A OLD BOOK, VARIOUS NAGA WEAPONS
#3. MISHMI NAGAS, ASSAM 1922
#4. NAGAS 1870 TO 1880
#5. NAGA SKULL RACK, SORRY FOR THE PICTURE QUALITY.

#6.NAGA AX , DAO
#7. NAGA AX DAO, 30 INCHES LONG
#8. NAGA AX, DAO, 28 IN. LONG, CIRCA. 1900
#9. TWO NAGA AXES, WITH SCABBARDS AND BELTS
#10. DISPLAY WITH NAGA SHIELD AND SEVERAL NAGA AX, DAO
#11. OLD BOOK PLATE NAGA WITH FANCY HEADRESS WITH BUFFALOW
HORNS AND HORNBILL SKULLS.
#12. NAGA CROSSBOW AND A RAT TRAP. VERY POOR PICTURE BUT SHOWS THE UNUSUAL FORM.

Royston · 7th February 2015, 07:44 PM

Here are some of mine to add to the collection.
I have posted some of these before, but it is better to have them all in one place.
The first and second to last are the metal shafted examples. Numbers 6 and 7 in Dave A's post.
Regards
Roy

fearn · 9th February 2015, 01:13 AM

I'm currently rereading James C Scott's The Art of Not Being Governed, which is a great history of "Upland Southeast Asia" and helps explain the origin of the great diversity of peoples in the area.

F

VANDOO · 6th March 2015, 06:08 AM

A VERY NICE COLLECTION WITH SOME COOL ITEMS I HAD NOT SEEN BEFORE. HERE ARE A FEW MORE PICTURES. #1., #9, &#10 kachin dao, 88cm. LONG
#2. NAGA WEAPONS PLATE FROM RAWSON'S BOOK
#3. REPLICA OF A NAGA HEADHUNTING TROPHY WITH A SPEAR POINT FINAL
#4, #5, #6, & #8. NAGA DAO 78 CM. LONG, NOTE DESIGNS ON SCABBARD DETAIL.
#7. NAGA DAO 81 CM. LONG FIRST HALF OF 20TH CENTURY

blacklacrau · 6th March 2015, 04:56 PM

What do you think about this one?

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5685

DaveA · 6th March 2015, 09:56 PM

Blacklacrau,

From the attached illustration it appears that your weapon may be a dao originating with the Konyak Nagas.

See my earlier post in this thread, #10

- Dave A.

DaveA · 8th March 2015, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royston

Here are some of mine to add to the collection.
I have posted some of these before, but it is better to have them all in one place.
The first and second to last are the metal shafted examples. Numbers 6 and 7 in Dave A's post.
Regards
Roy

Quite a varied collection of Naga weapons ! Thanks for posting the pictures. Very helpful.

Best,

Dave A.

trenchwarfare · 10th March 2015, 04:24 AM

Guess I'll get in on this, more so, than just my mystery sword. Here are three Items, I've had for a while now. The spear, and axe, I know are Naga. The sickle, I dunno. The ebay auction said it was a Vietnam bringback. The spear has been repaired, and the axe, could be tourista. Well, here they are.

DaveA · 10th March 2015, 05:59 AM

The axe seems likely to originate with the Konyak Naga based on the information I have. The shape of the blade is indicative as is the red and black hair. The ancestor figure carving I have not seen before nor is it mentioned in the references I have. It reminds me of carvings by the Paiwan (Taiwan aboriginals) on their weapons.

- Dave A.

imas560 · 10th March 2015, 09:41 AM

Hello all,
have been busy with renovations so very inactive in regards to the forum. Saw this great thread and thought I'd display my Naga items. Apologies for background and the items being a bit in disarray, house is a bit of a shambles at the moment.
best wishes to all
imas560

10th March 2015, 04:24 AM	#13
trenchwarfare Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 385	Guess I'll get in on this, more so, than just my mystery sword. Here are three Items, I've had for a while now. The spear, and axe, I know are Naga. The sickle, I dunno. The ebay auction said it was a Vietnam bringback. The spear has been repaired, and the axe, could be tourista. Well, here they are. Attached Images

10th March 2015, 05:59 AM	#14
DaveA Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 413	Naga Axe The axe seems likely to originate with the Konyak Naga based on the information I have. The shape of the blade is indicative as is the red and black hair. The ancestor figure carving I have not seen before nor is it mentioned in the references I have. It reminds me of carvings by the Paiwan (Taiwan aboriginals) on their weapons. - Dave A.

10th March 2015, 09:41 AM	#15
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Hello all, have been busy with renovations so very inactive in regards to the forum. Saw this great thread and thought I'd display my Naga items. Apologies for background and the items being a bit in disarray, house is a bit of a shambles at the moment. best wishes to all imas560 Attached Images

4th February 2015, 07:19 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	NAGA TRIBAL WEAPONS I HAVE WHAT I THINK IS A OLDER FORM OF NAGA AX . THE BLADE IS 24.8 CM. X 12 CM AND THE TOTAL LEGNTH IS 50.2 CM. LONG TOTAL. WOOD HANDLE WITH SMOOTH WEAR AND HEAVY PATINA, FORGED IRON FERRULE AND BUTT STRAP. FROM A OLD DUTCH COLLECTION CIRCA 19TH CENTURY. #1, #2. & #3. TWO PICTURES OF MY UNUSUAL AX. AND ONE PICTURE WITH MY OTHER NAGA AXES FOR COMPARISON. #4. OLD PICTURE OF NAGA WEAPONS WITH OLDER FORM OF AX SIMULAR BUT NOT THE SAME AS MY EXAMPLE. CIRC 1873. #5. ANOTHER OLD PICTURE OF NAGA WEAPONS EXAMPLES OF MANY FORMS #6. NAGA WARRIORS #7. KONYAK, NAGA #8. NAGAS CIRCA 1930 #9.NAGAS #10. NAGA DAO WITH UNUSUAL SCABBARD #11. VARIOUS NAGA WEAPONS #12. NAGA WARRIOR, OLD PICTURE ALL OPINIONS AND INFORMATION WELCOME. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 5th February 2015 at 06:51 PM.

5th February 2015, 11:41 AM	#2
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Hi VANDOO, seems like only you and me... Nice interesting piece, not sure if it is in fact Naga, the profile of the handle is different. Maybe Assam or elsewhere in South East Asia. If from an old Dutch collection, perhaps Indonesia somewhere. Hopefully, someone will know

5th February 2015, 03:27 PM	#3
trenchwarfare Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 385	I haven't said anything, cuz I don't have a clue. I like it. Somehow feels Cambodian to me.

5th February 2015, 03:39 PM	#4
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,079	I could be wrong (I often am) but to me it looks more like one of the elaborate throwing knives/axes from Africa.........

5th February 2015, 05:11 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THANKS! FOR THE REPLIES ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE AS I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING JUST LIKE IT IN ANY OF THE PLACES MENTIONED. (BUT THEN I HAVE NOT SEEN EVERYTHING YET ) THE ONLY THING I AM SURE OF IS ITS OLDER THAN THE OTHER NAGA AXES I HAVE. MY KNOWLEGE OF ALL THINGS NAGA IS LIMITED AND THERE DOES SEEM TO BE QUITE A VARIETY OF WEAPONS SAID TO HAVE BEEN USED BY THE VARIOUS NAGA TRIBES IN SEVERAL AREAS. THE BLADE AND THE ABSENCE OF HAIR AND THE IRON FERRULES ON THE HANDLE DOES SET IT APART FROM TODAYS EXAMPLES. IF IT IS NAGA IT IS AN ATYPICAL FORM OR SOMETHING MODIFIED BY AN INDIVIDUAL. I TOO AM REMINDED OF AFRICAN THROWING KNIVES BUT THE BALANCE IS ALL WRONG ON THIS ITEM. MOST AFRICAN THROWING KNIVES I HAVE SEEN ARE ALL IRON WITH A FIBER OR CLOTH WRAPPED GRIP. I WILL USE THIS POST TO PUT ALL THE PICTURES OF NAGA ITEMS I HAVE FOR A REFERENCE WHICH CAN HOPEFULLY BE ADDED TO IN FUTURE.

5th February 2015, 05:37 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	NAGA PICTURES #1. UNUSUAL FORM, KABUI DAO, SAID TO BE FOR DANCE. #2. PLATE FROM A OLD BOOK, VARIOUS NAGA WEAPONS #3. MISHMI NAGAS, ASSAM 1922 #4. NAGAS 1870 TO 1880 #5. NAGA SKULL RACK, SORRY FOR THE PICTURE QUALITY. #6.NAGA AX , DAO #7. NAGA AX DAO, 30 INCHES LONG #8. NAGA AX, DAO, 28 IN. LONG, CIRCA. 1900 #9. TWO NAGA AXES, WITH SCABBARDS AND BELTS #10. DISPLAY WITH NAGA SHIELD AND SEVERAL NAGA AX, DAO #11. OLD BOOK PLATE NAGA WITH FANCY HEADRESS WITH BUFFALOW HORNS AND HORNBILL SKULLS. #12. NAGA CROSSBOW AND A RAT TRAP. VERY POOR PICTURE BUT SHOWS THE UNUSUAL FORM. Attached Images

7th February 2015, 07:44 PM	#7
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 443	MORE PHOTOS Here are some of mine to add to the collection. I have posted some of these before, but it is better to have them all in one place. The first and second to last are the metal shafted examples. Numbers 6 and 7 in Dave A's post. Regards Roy Attached Images

9th February 2015, 01:13 AM	#8
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	I'm currently rereading James C Scott's The Art of Not Being Governed, which is a great history of "Upland Southeast Asia" and helps explain the origin of the great diversity of peoples in the area. F

6th March 2015, 06:08 AM	#9
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A VERY NICE COLLECTION WITH SOME COOL ITEMS I HAD NOT SEEN BEFORE. HERE ARE A FEW MORE PICTURES. #1., #9, &#10 kachin dao, 88cm. LONG #2. NAGA WEAPONS PLATE FROM RAWSON'S BOOK #3. REPLICA OF A NAGA HEADHUNTING TROPHY WITH A SPEAR POINT FINAL #4, #5, #6, & #8. NAGA DAO 78 CM. LONG, NOTE DESIGNS ON SCABBARD DETAIL. #7. NAGA DAO 81 CM. LONG FIRST HALF OF 20TH CENTURY Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 6th March 2015 at 07:11 AM.

6th March 2015, 04:56 PM	#10
blacklacrau Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 50	What do you think about this one? http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5685 Attached Images

6th March 2015, 09:56 PM	#11
DaveA Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 413	Konyak Blade Blacklacrau, From the attached illustration it appears that your weapon may be a dao originating with the Konyak Nagas. See my earlier post in this thread, #10 - Dave A. Attached Images Last edited by DaveA; 6th March 2015 at 10:00 PM. Reason: remove duplicate information