When is a Parang Latok not a Parang Latok?......

CharlesS · 27th December 2005, 09:00 PM

....well, technically, according to Zonneveld(Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago), when it's a SADAP.

The sadap is identical to a parang lotok except that its elbow is octagonal, or eight-sided. The example below has become one of my favorite pieces. It is of superb quality throughtout, most especially the heavy blade.

Tim Simmons · 27th December 2005, 09:22 PM

Go on rub our noses in it!!

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zamboanga · 28th December 2005, 05:26 AM

Wow!

Dimensions of this piece? The wrapping on the hilt is as thin as it can get.

Battara · 28th December 2005, 05:34 AM

Chuckmeister, you have a good piece there. I love the chiseling.

Henk · 28th December 2005, 09:49 AM

Woooow, both pieces are just magnificent. Congrats on such pieces. Not a parang latok, but still.......

VVV · 28th December 2005, 03:08 PM

Hi all,

Except for the octagonal elbow, as Charles pointed out, usually the sadap has more flowery carvings at the hilt than the Latok.
The reason is that the sadap is Melanau (Malay Muslims) and the Latok is Land Dayak so they belong to different tribes.
My Sadap is also almost 1,5 times bigger overall than my Latoks.
The Latoks also differ between Dayak tribes from more simple wooden hilts to the carved antler horn hilt (enclosed Latok hilt examples below).

Michael

kino · 28th December 2005, 05:33 AM

....all along I thought I had a Parang Latok....
Thanks for clearing it up.

27th December 2005, 09:00 PM	#1
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	When is a Parang Latok not a Parang Latok?...... ....well, technically, according to Zonneveld(Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago), when it's a *SADAP. The sadap* is identical to a parang lotok except that its elbow is octagonal, or eight-sided. The example below has become one of my favorite pieces. It is of superb quality throughtout, most especially the heavy blade. Attached Images Last edited by CharlesS; 27th December 2005 at 09:02 PM. Reason: spelling error

28th December 2005, 03:08 PM	#6
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Hi all, Except for the octagonal elbow, as Charles pointed out, usually the sadap has more flowery carvings at the hilt than the Latok. The reason is that the sadap is Melanau (Malay Muslims) and the Latok is Land Dayak so they belong to different tribes. My Sadap is also almost 1,5 times bigger overall than my Latoks. The Latoks also differ between Dayak tribes from more simple wooden hilts to the carved antler horn hilt (enclosed Latok hilt examples below). Michael Attached Images

28th December 2005, 05:33 AM	#7
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,002	....all along I thought I had a Parang Latok.... Thanks for clearing it up. Attached Images

27th December 2005, 09:22 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Go on rub our noses in it!! .

28th December 2005, 05:26 AM	#3
zamboanga Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: zamboanga city, philippines Posts: 132	Wow! Dimensions of this piece? The wrapping on the hilt is as thin as it can get.

28th December 2005, 05:34 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	Chuckmeister, you have a good piece there. I love the chiseling.

28th December 2005, 09:49 AM	#5
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Woooow, both pieces are just magnificent. Congrats on such pieces. Not a parang latok, but still.......