Italian dagger 17th century??

Sajen · 2nd May 2020, 11:59 PM

Hello,

The auction house has described it as 17th century dagger, I personally doubt this age a little bit.

What do you think? Or know! It's is 22,5 cm long.

Thank you in advance for every comment!

mariusgmioc · 3rd May 2020, 09:02 AM

Definitely not 17 century.

This is a 19th century dagger. I am also inclined to say it is Spanish but it is more a hunch than educated oppinion.

Sajen · 3rd May 2020, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Definitely not 17 century.

This is a 19th century dagger.

Thank you Marius, exactly what I thought!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

I am also inclined to say it is Spanish but it is more a hunch than educated oppinion.

Could it be French? This was my guess?

Regards,
Detlef

mariusgmioc · 3rd May 2020, 11:45 AM

It could be French but the type of construction, materials and etching on the blade are somehow consistent with 19th century Toledo factory works.

Yet, it is of a rather classic shape that would be very difficult to precisely locate.

On second thoughts, noticing the small size of the dagger, this might be what is called "prostitute dagger." You may Google this term for images and will see some similar ones but also with disputable origins.

But let's hope that some forum colleagues know better!

Sajen · 3rd May 2020, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

On second thoughts, noticing the small size of the dagger, this might be what is called "prostitute dagger." You may Google this term for images and will see some similar ones but also with disputable origins.

Hello Marius,

This is exactly what I have had in mind!

Regards,
Detlef

BUCC_Guy · 3rd May 2020, 02:38 PM

I thought it was a naval dirk, but that small size would indicate a prostitute’s dagger.

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Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Italian dagger 17th century?? Hello, The auction house has described it as 17th century dagger, I personally doubt this age a little bit. What do you think? Or know! It's is 22,5 cm long. Thank you in advance for every comment! Attached Images

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mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,903	It could be French but the type of construction, materials and etching on the blade are somehow consistent with 19th century Toledo factory works. Yet, it is of a rather classic shape that would be very difficult to precisely locate. On second thoughts, noticing the small size of the dagger, this might be what is called "prostitute dagger." You may Google this term for images and will see some similar ones but also with disputable origins. But let's hope that some forum colleagues know better! Attached Images Last edited by mariusgmioc; 3rd May 2020 at 12:04 PM.

3rd May 2020, 09:02 AM	#2
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,903	Definitely not 17 century. This is a 19th century dagger. I am also inclined to say it is Spanish but it is more a hunch than educated oppinion.

3rd May 2020, 02:38 PM	#6
BUCC_Guy Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 52	I thought it was a naval dirk, but that small size would indicate a prostitute’s dagger.