S.E. Asian dagger, help please.

Tim Simmons · 4th February 2008, 08:50 PM

I have just bought this through a buy it now offer, it just seemed a good buy. As you all know this is rather a leap in the dark for me. According to the seller the metal on the hilt is silver? I am not that sure. The blade is 11" long and looks pretty solid. The hilt is turned horn? Malayan? Cost two to three nights in the pub which does depend on how much you drink. Would the drink be a better buy?

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Lew · 4th February 2008, 08:52 PM

Tim

It's a nice tombak dagger

Lew

Henk · 4th February 2008, 10:31 PM

A nice tombak. probably a good pamor blade that needs a good etch. Hilt and scabbard made to give it a dagger look. But certainly not original.
Drink a better buy? Depends what you drink and most important in this matter, how much

I think you did well. Three nights a clear head and a tombak in your hands.
I don't dare to say, what could a man wish more

Tim Simmons · 4th February 2008, 10:43 PM

Thanks Henk,

Well a pint of lager in the south of UK is most often over £3. I have to admit to slowing down, age and waist line do not seem to be able to enjoy such pleasures so much these days. I was under the impression that all Tombaks are an adaption in one way or another so what would be original?

Tim Simmons · 5th February 2008, 07:38 PM

My mistake the blade is 6.5" which changes the dynamics some what

. Still an okay thing I hope.

Mytribalworld · 5th February 2008, 08:54 PM

In my opinion a modern imitation of the classic Dohong dagger found in the south part of Borneo among the Ngajoe dayaks. The are from very old times mostly before 1850 ( when they where already quite rare)
dohongs are also discussed in this forum I believe.....

Arjan.

Tim Simmons · 5th February 2008, 09:39 PM

I will post day light pics when it arrives. You can get rare things sometimes. You have got me a lot more interested. You must think the seller will buff it up especially if ? the metal is silver?

Henk · 5th February 2008, 10:25 PM

Tim,

Arjen could be right with an imitation of a dohong dagger. The original way of mounting is like a spear with a shaft like this one or in dagger shape like the two on the other picture.
I think you did well considering the price of a pint of lager, maybe two or three on an evening and that for three days.......

Tim Simmons · 5th February 2008, 10:30 PM

Thanks Henk,

If I were to buy only what was traditional to most collectors, I would have no collection at all. The one I having coming, so far looks a lot better than what has been shown so far. Obviously I am hoping for the best.

CharlesS · 6th February 2008, 04:21 AM

The hilt style here is almost identical to that of a Malay parang ginah.

4th February 2008, 08:50 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	S.E. Asian dagger, help please. I have just bought this through a buy it now offer, it just seemed a good buy. As you all know this is rather a leap in the dark for me. According to the seller the metal on the hilt is silver? I am not that sure. The blade is 11" long and looks pretty solid. The hilt is turned horn? Malayan? Cost two to three nights in the pub which does depend on how much you drink. Would the drink be a better buy? [IMG] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/jamhappy/thwateredsteeldagger2.jpg[/IMG] Last edited by Tim Simmons; 4th February 2008 at 10:12 PM.

5th February 2008, 08:54 PM	#6
Mytribalworld Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 400	In my opinion a modern imitation of the classic Dohong dagger found in the south part of Borneo among the Ngajoe dayaks. The are from very old times mostly before 1850 ( when they where already quite rare) dohongs are also discussed in this forum I believe..... Arjan. Attached Images

5th February 2008, 10:25 PM	#8
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Tim, Arjen could be right with an imitation of a dohong dagger. The original way of mounting is like a spear with a shaft like this one or in dagger shape like the two on the other picture. I think you did well considering the price of a pint of lager, maybe two or three on an evening and that for three days....... Attached Images

4th February 2008, 08:52 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Tim It's a nice tombak dagger Lew

4th February 2008, 10:31 PM	#3
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	A nice tombak. probably a good pamor blade that needs a good etch. Hilt and scabbard made to give it a dagger look. But certainly not original. Drink a better buy? Depends what you drink and most important in this matter, how much I think you did well. Three nights a clear head and a tombak in your hands. I don't dare to say, what could a man wish more

4th February 2008, 10:43 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Thanks Henk, Well a pint of lager in the south of UK is most often over £3. I have to admit to slowing down, age and waist line do not seem to be able to enjoy such pleasures so much these days. I was under the impression that all Tombaks are an adaption in one way or another so what would be original?

5th February 2008, 07:38 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	My mistake the blade is 6.5" which changes the dynamics some what . Still an okay thing I hope.

5th February 2008, 09:39 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	I will post day light pics when it arrives. You can get rare things sometimes. You have got me a lot more interested. You must think the seller will buff it up especially if ? the metal is silver?

5th February 2008, 10:30 PM	#9
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Thanks Henk, If I were to buy only what was traditional to most collectors, I would have no collection at all. The one I having coming, so far looks a lot better than what has been shown so far. Obviously I am hoping for the best.

6th February 2008, 04:21 AM	#10
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	The hilt style here is almost identical to that of a Malay parang ginah.