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4th June 2010, 06:47 PM
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Persian Kard Dagger....Help With Translation Please!
It's kind of unusual to see script on a kard dagger, which is one of the things that attracted me to this one, along with the nice chieselling.
Can anyone make out the Arabic script in either side of the blade?? Thanks in adavance for any help! |
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5th June 2010, 04:43 AM
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I do love the chiseling. You have been a busy boy........
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5th June 2010, 05:21 PM
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Charles, the writing/script is quite common on high quality chiselled Persian kards of Safavid and Qajar periods. Most, if not all, do have it. Yours is the nice one, but I have some minor criticism:-). The chiselling on the blade, bolsters and tangband is cruder comparing to a split-palmette at the base of the central ridge at the spine. It does resemble Indian floral pattern more than the Persian, especially on the flowers. I do not think it was done by the same hand, or potentially in the same period. Below are some examples of good quality 18-19th C. chiselling, with script:-), on Persian kards.
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5th June 2010, 06:57 PM
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Thanks for the insight Alex. I have no way of knowing about dating the chieselling, but I would certainly agree that the motifs are more Indian, and I should have probably more aptly called this an Indo-Persian kard at the very least.
BTW, your example is gorgeous! Last edited by CharlesS; 5th June 2010 at 10:19 PM. |
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10th June 2010, 01:37 AM
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Can no one help with translation here?
Where's Dom! 
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10th June 2010, 11:59 PM
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[QUOTE=CharlesS]Can no one help with translation here?
The left side says Assistance from Allah and Victroy Near the right side mentiones Allah Ali but can't read it all |
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11th June 2010, 01:30 AM
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THANKS Ward!
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12th June 2010, 01:07 AM
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with our best will, noway to find the exact translation, even, which one Surat and verse is concerning ... we can't give you something "an average translation", that could hurt may be some one  here the reading in european script - NASR MAINE ALLAH WA FATH MOBINE à + Dom |
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