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Old 23rd August 2009, 03:58 PM   #1
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Default Sumbawa keris for enjoy and discussion

I want to share this Sumbawa keris with you for enjoy and discussion.
Your comments are welcome.

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Old 23rd August 2009, 04:06 PM   #2
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More pics. Sorry, the pictures not anymore in right order.
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Old 23rd August 2009, 07:02 PM   #3
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How old is this keris? Looks like it is for court wear.
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Old 23rd August 2009, 07:44 PM   #4
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It is something, that really interests me.

In last time there are many Sumbawa kerisses with such silvery samplengs, from Sumbawa and Lombok.
Most of them also have toli-toli. I don't believe, they all are old.

Is there a possibility to recognize the older ones? Is this sampleng old (it looks to me older)? Is the toli-toli old? It seems to be slightly different to this sampleng.

A nice wood grain!

A very interesting blade, I have never seen such out-of-bugis-influence Sumbawa blade before. How long is it?
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Old 23rd August 2009, 08:28 PM   #5
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It is something, that really interests me.

In last time there are many Sumbawa kerisses with such silvery samplengs, from Sumbawa and Lombok.
Most of them also have toli-toli. I don't believe, they all are old.

Is there a possibility to recognize the older ones? Is this sampleng old (it looks to me older)? Is the toli-toli old? It seems to be slightly different to this sampleng.

A nice wood grain!

A very interesting blade, I have never seen such out-of-bugis-influence Sumbawa blade before. How long is it?
Hi Gustav,

have to agree with you, I also don't think that they all old while the construction most of the time is very good and fine.
When I look to my keris I am sure that it's an old one and that the sheat is worked for this blade. I get the handle to the same time and added it to the keris because I think that it fits very good (also silver, same stones, I think ruby). The white stones are inten, they cratch glass.
The blade is maybe a traded blade from Java, maybe Mr. Maisey can confirm this. The blade is 34 cm long without pesi.

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Old 23rd August 2009, 08:56 PM   #6
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Hello Sajen,

I like the luk of this blade very much, they are really graceful (to me).

This hilt is a little bit "to much" for me, I think, such a hilt would match a warangka, which also repoussed with silver (but the tastes are different).

Were it possible to see a picture of the original hilt?
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Old 23rd August 2009, 11:10 PM   #7
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The blade is maybe a traded blade from Java, maybe Mr. Maisey can confirm this. The blade is 34 cm long without pesi.

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I was wondering about that Sajen .
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How old is this keris? Looks like it is for court wear.
Hello Battara,

I don't know exacly the age of this keris. The hilt I added later, original the keris have had a nice wooden hilt with pendokok from silver. So maybe the hilt isn't old like all other. I think that the sheat is original to the blade. The wooden warangka with the top from black horn have a nice old patina. The blade is maybe a traded Java blade.

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