keris for sharing and comment

semar · 3rd June 2011, 07:37 PM

this keris I have found the last days that I stay in djogyakarta
I think its a nice keris and the scabbards stil one the way for this keris

regards semar

kai · 3rd June 2011, 11:18 PM

Suminep work?

The greneng seem to be inspired by Sumatran style.

Regards,
Kai

semar · 4th June 2011, 07:03 AM

no this is no madura work I`m sorry this is a java blade

regards semar

A. G. Maisey · 4th June 2011, 07:39 AM

Semar, if you are certain that this is a Javanese blade, read no further, however, when I look at this blade I can see something that has some characteristics that have been rendered in a manner reminiscent of a Javanese blade, and a greneng that is most definitely not of any known Javanese style.

But if you're quite certain its Javanese, OK, end of story, its Javanese.

semar · 8th June 2011, 10:52 AM

I`m sorry for my leat reply
I have aske 2 peopel In djogya that cleaning keris
and the say the blade is javanees but I`m open for any comment

regards semar

A. G. Maisey · 8th June 2011, 11:01 AM

My opinion stands.

Others are equally entitled their own opinions.

GIO · 8th June 2011, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

Suminep work?

The greneng seem to be inspired by Sumatran style.

Regards,
Kai

Yes, I agree. Very uncommon, the blade greneng is different from that on the ganja, which is more understandable.

Semar, thank you for sharing. Nice blade

David · 8th June 2011, 12:22 PM

Well, i assume we are looking at a contemporary keris. Please correct me if i am wrong. As Alan points out, this blade does not seem to fall into any known Javanese Pakem. But i have seen some very creative license applied to some modern keris, so i suppose it is possible this was made in Jawa and that technically a keris made in Jawa is a Javanese keris.

A. G. Maisey · 8th June 2011, 02:01 PM

David, you're more generous than I am.

I cannot see a Javanese hand anywhere in this blade.

If it was made in Jawa, it was not made by Javanese person.

However, as I've already said:- all are entitled to their own opinions.

David · 8th June 2011, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

David, you're more generous than I am.

Yes, i am afraid that is just my generous nature...

I;m just trying to look at all sides of this. My first inclination is to suspect Madura as origin.

3rd June 2011, 07:37 PM	#1
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	keris for sharing and comment this keris I have found the last days that I stay in djogyakarta I think its a nice keris and the scabbards stil one the way for this keris regards semar Attached Images

3rd June 2011, 11:18 PM	#2
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Suminep work? The greneng seem to be inspired by Sumatran style. Regards, Kai

4th June 2011, 07:03 AM	#3
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	no this is no madura work I`m sorry this is a java blade regards semar

4th June 2011, 07:39 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,888	Semar, if you are certain that this is a Javanese blade, read no further, however, when I look at this blade I can see something that has some characteristics that have been rendered in a manner reminiscent of a Javanese blade, and a greneng that is most definitely not of any known Javanese style. But if you're quite certain its Javanese, OK, end of story, its Javanese.

8th June 2011, 10:52 AM	#5
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	I`m sorry for my leat reply I have aske 2 peopel In djogya that cleaning keris and the say the blade is javanees but I`m open for any comment regards semar

8th June 2011, 11:01 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,888	My opinion stands. Others are equally entitled their own opinions.

8th June 2011, 12:22 PM	#8
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,119	Well, i assume we are looking at a contemporary keris. Please correct me if i am wrong. As Alan points out, this blade does not seem to fall into any known Javanese Pakem. But i have seen some very creative license applied to some modern keris, so i suppose it is possible this was made in Jawa and that technically a keris made in Jawa is a Javanese keris.

8th June 2011, 02:01 PM	#9
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,888	David, you're more generous than I am. I cannot see a Javanese hand anywhere in this blade. If it was made in Jawa, it was not made by Javanese person. However, as I've already said:- all are entitled to their own opinions.