A sword for comments

bvieira · 30th December 2020, 11:21 PM

Hello!

Would appreciate some comments on this sword! I bought it recently, the blade and the cup I have sure it's original, the other parts I am in doubt but they are so we'll made! And the all sword was very well preserved with a kind of green varnish that I had to take out.

Thank you for comments.

Bruno

bvieira · 30th December 2020, 11:23 PM

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M ELEY · 31st December 2020, 03:25 AM

Very nice Spanish (or Portuguese?) cup-hilt, Bruno! I believe this pattern was referred to as a 'sail hilt' and dates to the last quarter of the 18th century. As you pointed out, the blade, cup and guard/quillons look legit. Grip rewrapped, but well done. That pommel, though. It looks good for the piece, but I don't recall seeing this classic pommel form from cup-hilts of this period. Now I'll let the experts step in...

bvieira · 2nd January 2021, 12:42 PM

Hello Meley tks for your opinion! I think it's spanish, but don't really know, only the blade I can assure it's german, by the inscription, Gio Knegt in solingen.

Regards,
BV

M ELEY · 2nd January 2021, 12:53 PM

Most Spanish swords of this period had blades made in Solingen. Germany was basically producing for most of Europe at that time, with their blades being used in Scotland for basket-hilts, in American swords from the Revolutionary period, etc. I am pretty sure your sword has a model number, but i don't have access to Brincherhoff's book at the moment.

bvieira · 2nd January 2021, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by M ELEY

Most Spanish swords of this period had blades made in Solingen. Germany was basically producing for most of Europe at that time, with their blades being used in Scotland for basket-hilts, in American swords from the Revolutionary period, etc. I am pretty sure your sword has a model number, but i don't have access to Brincherhoff's book at the moment.

Yes from germany but also toledo, but germans often had more production quantity.

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bvieira Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 108	A sword for comments Hello! Would appreciate some comments on this sword! I bought it recently, the blade and the cup I have sure it's original, the other parts I am in doubt but they are so we'll made! And the all sword was very well preserved with a kind of green varnish that I had to take out. Thank you for comments. Bruno Attached Images

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M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,101	Very nice Spanish (or Portuguese?) cup-hilt, Bruno! I believe this pattern was referred to as a 'sail hilt' and dates to the last quarter of the 18th century. As you pointed out, the blade, cup and guard/quillons look legit. Grip rewrapped, but well done. That pommel, though. It looks good for the piece, but I don't recall seeing this classic pommel form from cup-hilts of this period. Now I'll let the experts step in... Last edited by M ELEY; 31st December 2020 at 03:40 AM.

2nd January 2021, 12:42 PM	#4
bvieira Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 108	Hello Meley tks for your opinion! I think it's spanish, but don't really know, only the blade I can assure it's german, by the inscription, Gio Knegt in solingen. Regards, BV Last edited by bvieira; 2nd January 2021 at 04:51 PM.

2nd January 2021, 12:53 PM	#5
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,101	Most Spanish swords of this period had blades made in Solingen. Germany was basically producing for most of Europe at that time, with their blades being used in Scotland for basket-hilts, in American swords from the Revolutionary period, etc. I am pretty sure your sword has a model number, but i don't have access to Brincherhoff's book at the moment.