Appealing to all UK collectors- urgent !!!

[Sikh_soldier]

The proposed ban on the import, sale and manufacture of swords will have an adverse effect on legitimate practitioners, collectors and manufacturers. Actual sword related crime is very rare and does not warrant a ban that affects the cultural activities of thousands of legitimate martial artists, collectors and smiths. Current legislation is quite adequate to deal with violent crime connected with bladed weapons. New legislation is merely for show. Enforcing such a ban will also affect cultural events such as Scottish Sword Dancing and many Sikh festivals. We urge the PM to reconsider this knee jerk reaction to media influenced scaremongering.


please give your support there are over 6000 signatures as we speak
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/swords/?showall=1

[fenlander]

I am so so glad i do not live in the UK anymore

What a nanny state it has become.

Pathetic

So pathetic

[katana]

Originally Posted by fenlander

I am so so glad i do not live in the UK anymore

What a nanny state it has become.

Pathetic

So pathetic

Unfortunately, I do ....

Well done Sikh soldier for bringing this to my notice .. needless to say I signed 10 seconds after reading the post I expect to find that collectors and martial art exponants will end up having to be licenced......probably incuring an annual fee......to further finance our demented government coffers.......Gaud bless Mary Poppins

[FenrisWolf]

Don't feel too bad, the way things are going the Sheeple are probably going to ram Billary into office in 2008, and with the Democrats controlling the House and the Senate, Schumer, Feinstein and their ilk can finally get around to gutting that pesky Bill of Rights that gets in the way of so much of their Perfect Society....almost makes me hope for an Armageddon-class meteorite to show up and make room on the evolutionary ladder, humans are too stupid to deserve the top slot....

For what it's worth I signed the petition as well, not that they'll listen too much to a 'colonial'...I signed it as "A descendant of British colonists living in the USA"

[Tim Simmons]

This is a panic by the "Moral Majority" type brigade. I question its success in a real debate. The ruling class in the UK rather like antique weapons and new swords as well.

[FenrisWolf]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

This is a panic by the "Moral Majority" type brigade. I question its success in a real debate. The ruling class in the UK rather like antique weapons and new swords as well.

The problem is that there will be no 'real debate' on the issue. If there was, and the politicos actually listened to the concerns of their constituency, it might do some good, but as I understand it MPs are for the most part only concerned with toeing the party line, not with serving the actual needs of those who voted him or her into office.

I'm sure those who live in the UK are far more aware of the double standards than non-Brits are, but let's face it, none of the restrictions being passed will affect the upper crust. Not that we're much better, out 'upper crust' is determined more by money and celebrity status than by birth.

No, the 'ruling class' in Britain will keep their guns and their collections, while the lower classes, the ones who really need the means to protect themselves, will be disarmed. There was a huge outcry in England a few years ago when a homeowner used an unlicensed shotgun to protect himself after his home was burglarized repeatedly by the same criminals. Despite the fact that the burglars were career criminals with a history of violence, the homeowner was charged and convicted for murder, and the surviving burglar was even consulted as to how harsh a sentence he felt his 'attacker' deserved! The court's position was that they needed to make an example of the homeowner to discourage others from 'taking the law into their own hands'. Last I heard the homeowner was serving a life sentence while the burglar received early release due to the 'pain and suffering' he received at the hands of the homeowner....

[Andrew]

I've "stuck" this thread. Good luck, fellows.

[~Alaung_Hpaya~]

And I was about to start collecting


Anyway signed petition .

[FenrisWolf]

Just to clarify the bucket o' worms UK weapons collectors are facing:

From Wikipedia:

Parliamentary sovereignty, parliamentary supremacy, or legislative supremacy is a concept in constitutional law that applies to some parliamentary democracies. Under parliamentary sovereignty, a legislative body has absolute sovereignty, meaning it is supreme to all other government institutions (including any executive or judicial bodies as they may exist). Furthermore, it implies that the legislative body may change or repeal any prior legislative acts. Parliamentary sovereignty contrasts with notions of judicial review, where a court may overturn legislation deemed unconstitutional. Specific instances of parliamentary sovereignty exist in the United Kingdom and New Zealand.

So basically there are no checks and balances whatsoever on Parliament's legislative powers.

And for a larger overview of gun/weapons laws in the UK and how they reached the current sorry state of affairs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_pol...United_Kingdom