KATZBALGER SECOND CHANCE

cornelistromp · 7th October 2014, 08:28 PM

original katzbalgers are extremely rare and are hardly offered for sale.

This Katzbalger I missed at the auction thomas del mar in December 2006, but last week I got a second chance at Christies London, due to the crisis on the antiques market for a fraction of the 2006 price.
beautiful water find in an untouched state around 1530.
Enjoy the pictures.

best,
jasper

cornelistromp · 7th October 2014, 08:30 PM

H.Aldegrever 1529 1530

Matchlock · 7th October 2014, 08:45 PM

Hi Jasper,

My congrats - you couldn't have done any better!
And thanks for showing these great images as well!

Nevertheless, I strongly recommend that you also consider purchasing a finely preserved sample coming your way in November - in as-new condition, and even retaining its original sheath including one of the bodkins.
It is the second best Katzbalger worldwide, after the famous specimen in the collections of the Vienna museum which once belonged to Ulrich von Schellenberg 500 years ago.

Best,
Michael

cornelistromp · 7th October 2014, 09:47 PM

Hi Michael,

of course however I have 9 now, can't have them all.

some examples of Katbalgers with a medial ridge/cam at pommel cap

best,

cornelistromp · 8th October 2014, 08:51 AM

katzbalger dutch army museum with Melchior Diefstetter (1523-1556) blade and chequered arms of Bavaria in a shield.

all though the blade comes from the same 16thC period, it does not belong originally to this Katzbalger hilt!

thanks Carl for those beautiful pictures.

best,
jasper

fernando · 9th October 2014, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cornelistromp

Hi Michael,

of course however I have 9 now ...

9 beauties, certainly

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cornelistromp · 9th October 2014, 06:33 PM

Hi Fernando,

absolutely 9 beauties.
but they are not the katzbalgers I've posted!
Only the Katzbalger in post 1 and the first extremely beautiful non excavated Katzbalger in post 4 with etched grip are under my care.
the others excavated ones are from various museums in the Netherlands; rijksmuseum van oudheden leiden, Museum Rotterdam, army museum Delft / soesterberg ect.

This group as #1 is a very rare subgroup of the Katzbalger and comes up in the second quarter of the 16th century 1525-1540.
The common feature of this group is the comb or medial rich on the flat of the flaired "pommel" and recurved quillons, each formed of a writhen bar issuant from a serpent's head , actually like all katzbalgers in this thread have!

the other 7 are of a different style, I will post them one by one when I have completed the study of similar examples in museums, private collections and art.

best,
Jasper

7th October 2014, 08:30 PM	#2
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058	H.Aldegrever 1529 1530 Attached Images Last edited by cornelistromp; 8th October 2014 at 04:12 PM.

7th October 2014, 09:47 PM	#4
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058	Hi Michael, of course however I have 9 now, can't have them all. some examples of Katbalgers with a medial ridge/cam at pommel cap best, Attached Images Last edited by cornelistromp; 8th October 2014 at 08:27 AM.

8th October 2014, 08:51 AM	#5
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058	katzbalger dutch army museum with Melchior Diefstetter (1523-1556) blade and chequered arms of Bavaria in a shield. all though the blade comes from the same 16thC period, it does not belong originally to this Katzbalger hilt! thanks Carl for those beautiful pictures. best, jasper Attached Images Last edited by cornelistromp; 8th October 2014 at 08:48 PM.

9th October 2014, 06:33 PM	#7
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058	Hi Fernando, absolutely 9 beauties. but they are not the katzbalgers I've posted! Only the Katzbalger in post 1 and the first extremely beautiful non excavated Katzbalger in post 4 with etched grip are under my care. the others excavated ones are from various museums in the Netherlands; rijksmuseum van oudheden leiden, Museum Rotterdam, army museum Delft / soesterberg ect. This group as #1 is a very rare subgroup of the Katzbalger and comes up in the second quarter of the 16th century 1525-1540. The common feature of this group is the comb or medial rich on the flat of the flaired "pommel" and recurved quillons, each formed of a writhen bar issuant from a serpent's head , actually like all katzbalgers in this thread have! the other 7 are of a different style, I will post them one by one when I have completed the study of similar examples in museums, private collections and art. best, Jasper Attached Images Last edited by cornelistromp; 10th October 2014 at 08:36 AM.

7th October 2014, 08:28 PM	#1
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058	KATZBALGER SECOND CHANCE original katzbalgers are extremely rare and are hardly offered for sale. This Katzbalger I missed at the auction thomas del mar in December 2006, but last week I got a second chance at Christies London, due to the crisis on the antiques market for a fraction of the 2006 price. beautiful water find in an untouched state around 1530. Enjoy the pictures. best, jasper Attached Images

7th October 2014, 08:45 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Jasper, My congrats - you couldn't have done any better! And thanks for showing these great images as well! Nevertheless, I strongly recommend that you also consider purchasing a finely preserved sample coming your way in November - in as-new condition, and even retaining its original sheath including one of the bodkins. It is the second best Katzbalger worldwide, after the famous specimen in the collections of the Vienna museum which once belonged to Ulrich von Schellenberg 500 years ago. Best, Michael