wahabite(?) dagger for comments

francantolin · 4th September 2020, 08:53 PM

Hello gentlemen,

I bought this old dagger,
I think it's called a wahabite dagger (?)
I wonder if it is a Yemeni model and how old it can be ?

( for me, late 19th, beginning of the 20th century... )

I found really nice the silver work
the blade is sharp, thick in the middle and seems a forged model .

Interesting too the crescent and stars carved stone ( cornelian ? )

Nice surprise for the hilt, not wood,
I don't think it's rhino but it is made of horn with an interesting wavy structure.

What do you think ?

Kind regards

francantolin · 4th September 2020, 09:00 PM

and the hilt structure

kahnjar1 · 5th September 2020, 08:30 AM

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=dharia+dagger
Please refer to this old link which I think will answer your questions.
Stu

francantolin · 5th September 2020, 11:14 AM

Hello Stu,

Thank you for the link for the Dharia daggers,

sure wahabite weapons doesn't mean a lot !
( but that's what I found on the net ! !!

... )

Yemen origin was not bad,

So if I'm right it's a rashaq hilt with a nafihi blade

Has somebody an advice/informations about age ?,
maybe the scabbard end has been changed/repaired.

Any comments welcomed about the carved stone ?
I find it nice and original but maybe it's common for the dharias ?

What do you think of the hilt/horn ?

Kind regards

Michael Blalock · 5th September 2020, 01:54 PM

The stone with a carving is unusual. It could represent the conjunction of the Moon, Venus and the Pleiades. Not sure of the significance but it does happen from time to time.

francantolin · 5th September 2020, 09:25 PM

Hello,

Thank you Michael for your message,

It make me think to the Islamic / Ottoman empire flag, ( ore the turkish or tunisian flag )
same crescent but with more stars !...

kahnjar1 · 6th September 2020, 04:56 AM

The hilt of your Dharia is IMHO SHBEYL not Rashaq. The blade looks to have been filed and could not be called Nafihi as they are rhomboid shape (no central ridge) and highly polished. I would just call it "a blade", probably a locally made Yemeni one.
Ref the scabbard tip,....it looks to me to be a standard original one, though a better pic of it would help.
Stu

francantolin · 6th September 2020, 10:05 PM

Hello,

Here other pictures of the blade, not that bad for me !
it looks like a Kurdish blade I have,
( maybe a pattern, I have to polish and try to etch it )

Diamond section blade, not symetric, larger on one side so that's what is called a rhomboid for me.

Is Nafihi blade style made like some assymetric Kindjal blades ?
Glad if you put please a picture of a Nafihi blade just for know how it's done.

4th September 2020, 08:53 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	wahabite(?) dagger for comments Hello gentlemen, I bought this old dagger, I think it's called a wahabite dagger (?) I wonder if it is a Yemeni model and how old it can be ? ( for me, late 19th, beginning of the 20th century... ) I found really nice the silver work the blade is sharp, thick in the middle and seems a forged model . Interesting too the crescent and stars carved stone ( cornelian ? ) Nice surprise for the hilt, not wood, I don't think it's rhino but it is made of horn with an interesting wavy structure. What do you think ? Kind regards Attached Images

4th September 2020, 09:00 PM	#2
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	and the hilt structure Attached Images

5th September 2020, 08:30 AM	#3
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,739	Dharia....not Wahabite http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=dharia+dagger Please refer to this old link which I think will answer your questions. Stu

6th September 2020, 04:56 AM	#7
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,739	The hilt of your Dharia is IMHO SHBEYL not Rashaq. The blade looks to have been filed and could not be called Nafihi as they are rhomboid shape (no central ridge) and highly polished. I would just call it "a blade", probably a locally made Yemeni one. Ref the scabbard tip,....it looks to me to be a standard original one, though a better pic of it would help. Stu Last edited by kahnjar1; 6th September 2020 at 07:04 AM.

6th September 2020, 10:05 PM	#8
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	Hello, Here other pictures of the blade, not that bad for me ! it looks like a Kurdish blade I have, ( maybe a pattern, I have to polish and try to etch it ) Diamond section blade, not symetric, larger on one side so that's what is called a rhomboid for me. Is Nafihi blade style made like some assymetric Kindjal blades ? Glad if you put please a picture of a Nafihi blade just for know how it's done. Attached Images

5th September 2020, 11:14 AM	#4
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	Hello Stu, Thank you for the link for the Dharia daggers, sure wahabite weapons doesn't mean a lot ! ( but that's what I found on the net ! !! ... ) Yemen origin was not bad, So if I'm right it's a rashaq hilt with a nafihi blade Has somebody an advice/informations about age ?, maybe the scabbard end has been changed/repaired. Any comments welcomed about the carved stone ? I find it nice and original but maybe it's common for the dharias ? What do you think of the hilt/horn ? Kind regards

5th September 2020, 01:54 PM	#5
Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	The stone with a carving is unusual. It could represent the conjunction of the Moon, Venus and the Pleiades. Not sure of the significance but it does happen from time to time.

5th September 2020, 09:25 PM	#6
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	Hello, Thank you Michael for your message, It make me think to the Islamic / Ottoman empire flag, ( ore the turkish or tunisian flag ) same crescent but with more stars !...