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Old 9th March 2016, 05:24 PM   #1
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Hello Everyone,

I have been trying to discover something about this item from my own ref books and from the web without success and am becoming somewhat frustrated in my efforts. Can any of the members shed any light on it, origin etc. if so I would be very grateful. Thanking you in anticipation.

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Old 9th March 2016, 06:25 PM   #2
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the ones here seem strangely familiar: armenian? the knife doesn't look particularly arabic or indopersian, maybe ottoman? the belt hook/stud on the scabbard throat make it appear european to me. fairly thick leather (?) cover looks like it was added on top of an older one to me.

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Old 10th March 2016, 05:52 PM   #3
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Hi Kronckew,
Thank you for your comments and observations, very interesting. I originally thought that it had a Balkan look about it but as you observed the belt hook is a European feature. I really don't know what to make of it. It appears to be well made and the scabbard is wood covered in green leather, which I omitted to mention. Also the overall length is 15 ins having a 10 ins long blade x 1.3125 ins wide. The other thing that I cannot judge is its age.
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Old 10th March 2016, 07:45 PM   #4
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Hi Miguel,
I have a feeling that this COULD be modern Indian manufacture. As you state everything looks very nice, but what about the fit of the leather to metal? The leather appears to be "fatter" than the metal it sits against.
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Old 11th March 2016, 09:58 PM   #5
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Hi Miguel,
I have a feeling that this COULD be modern Indian manufacture. As you state everything looks very nice, but what about the fit of the leather to metal? The leather appears to be "fatter" than the metal it sits against.
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Hi Stu,

Thanks for your reply. I think your feeling could be correct and that it is Indian made. You are also correct about the leather to the metal. The leather abuts the locket and chape and is not covered by them. The shroud at the base of the hilt is also to short to hold the knife firmly in it`s scabbard all things that make you suspicious of its origin.
I wonder what or who it was made for ? I guess I may never know and it will join my made for Tourist folder along with my other mistaken buys.

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Old 11th March 2016, 10:47 PM   #6
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I go with Kahnjar1 - I feel qiuite sure that it is of Indian origin.
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Old 12th March 2016, 03:08 AM   #7
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Hi Stu,

Thanks for your reply. I think your feeling could be correct and that it is Indian made. You are also correct about the leather to the metal. The leather abuts the locket and chape and is not covered by them. The shroud at the base of the hilt is also to short to hold the knife firmly in it`s scabbard all things that make you suspicious of its origin.
I wonder what or who it was made for ? I guess I may never know and it will join my made for Tourist folder along with my other mistaken buys.

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Miguel
Hi Miguel, I think you have probably answered your own question as to who it was made for.
There is a lot of stuff coming out of India purported to be "antique" or "old". As a really good example of this check out "Powder Flasks" on a well known website and you will see many "English" flasks from the "19th century" being advertised. They look in remarkably good condition for age and are IMHO clearly modern made copies. India now appears to be the new China in terms of copying items.
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