South East Asian knife? Need help!!

Sajen · 5th December 2013, 05:16 PM

Have won this knife from a german auction house, seems to be a nice blade but i only have this picture. It is 30 cm long. Have someone a guess from where it could be or seen something similar before?

CharlesS · 5th December 2013, 06:30 PM

Between the blade and the hilt, something about this is saying "Sumatran" to me, but I could very well be wrong. It doesn't exactly fit any "type", but very interesting and clear made for use nonetheless.

Looking forward to hearing other thoughts.

Rick · 5th December 2013, 07:01 PM

Don't we see these antler point hilts in Thai knives ?
Not that I think Thai when I look at the blade ...

Sajen · 5th December 2013, 07:35 PM

Thank you Charles and Rick,

frankly said I have had the same thoughts like Rick because the antler hilt and style of scabbard, look here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16521

Have the hope that someone have seen or own a similar one and know more.

CharlesS · 5th December 2013, 08:53 PM

You know the more I look at this and add in the scabbard the more I a thinking Thai too.

I will see if I can find some matching blade profiles.

Sajen · 5th December 2013, 11:10 PM

Have get a very informed statement by email. This knife coming from Cambodia or Thailand border to Cambodia and is a so called e-nep thai "Khmer" kukri. The scabbard is traditional to Cambodia, the used metal for the fittings most probable from samrit, a brass alloy with worthy metal content.
The knife is with 30 cm rather small but very typical.

Are there other members with such a knife?

David · 6th December 2013, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Don't we see these antler point hilts in Thai knives ?
Not that I think Thai when I look at the blade …

Are people here thinking that the antler is original to the blade. To me it looks like a replacement.

Sajen · 6th December 2013, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Are people here thinking that the antler is original to the blade. To me it looks like a replacement.

My friend, who have given me the informations in up write me that this knives have such an antler handle.

Regards,

Detlef

CharlesS · 6th December 2013, 04:47 PM

Sajen,

Here are two knives that I found with similar blade profiles, but neither is identical to yours as yours has a more straight spine. These were my reasons for first suggesting a Sumatran origin to the knife that is the subject at hand, and then wondering if it may be Thai.

The top one here is Sumatran and the bottom one Thai or Burmese.

The blade profile of the bottom one is slightly closer to yours.

Nathaniel · 10th December 2013, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

My friend, who have given me the informations in up write me that this knives have such an antler handle.

Regards,

Detlef

I agree...the handle could be a later replacement, but looks locally done though a bit crude. There are numerous blade profiles and several different handle styles on SEA...more than you usually see from the examples outside of SEA. Antler horn is not perhaps seen as much on the internet but you will find in used on the SEA mainland by the different Tai groups.

blue lander · 6th December 2013, 05:52 PM

Here's a picture of a modern Thai e-nep. The general shape does look similar.

Sajen · 6th December 2013, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue lander

Here's a picture of a modern Thai e-nep. The general shape does look similar.

Thank you for posting this knife. My friend already write me that this knives are still in use, old ones and new ones.

Regards,
Detlef

ibeam · 9th December 2013, 10:59 PM

Hi Sajen,

Do you have a close up of the blade? Like to see the detail on the spine of the blade...

Sajen · 10th December 2013, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibeam

Hi Sajen,

Do you have a close up of the blade? Like to see the detail on the spine of the blade...

Hi Ibeam,

it's the only picture I have for the moment, don't have the knife in hand until now. Will take some pictures when I received it.

Regards,

Detlef

Andrew · 10th December 2013, 04:21 PM

Here is one of mine with a similar blade profile. My example is definitely Thai.

Nathaniel · 10th December 2013, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibeam

Hi Sajen,

Do you have a close up of the blade? Like to see the detail on the spine of the blade...

Yes, it would be great to see more close up photos when the blade comes in

5th December 2013, 05:16 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,761	South East Asian knife? Need help!! Have won this knife from a german auction house, seems to be a nice blade but i only have this picture. It is 30 cm long. Have someone a guess from where it could be or seen something similar before? Attached Images

6th December 2013, 04:47 PM	#9
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Sajen, Here are two knives that I found with similar blade profiles, but neither is identical to yours as yours has a more straight spine. These were my reasons for first suggesting a Sumatran origin to the knife that is the subject at hand, and then wondering if it may be Thai. The top one here is Sumatran and the bottom one Thai or Burmese. The blade profile of the bottom one is slightly closer to yours. Attached Images

6th December 2013, 05:52 PM	#11
blue lander Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 456	Here's a picture of a modern Thai e-nep. The general shape does look similar. Attached Images

10th December 2013, 04:21 PM	#15
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Here is one of mine with a similar blade profile. My example is definitely Thai. Attached Images

5th December 2013, 06:30 PM	#2
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Between the blade and the hilt, something about this is saying "Sumatran" to me, but I could very well be wrong. It doesn't exactly fit any "type", but very interesting and clear made for use nonetheless. Looking forward to hearing other thoughts.

5th December 2013, 07:01 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	Don't we see these antler point hilts in Thai knives ? Not that I think Thai when I look at the blade ...

5th December 2013, 07:35 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,761	Thank you Charles and Rick, frankly said I have had the same thoughts like Rick because the antler hilt and style of scabbard, look here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16521 Have the hope that someone have seen or own a similar one and know more.

5th December 2013, 08:53 PM	#5
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	You know the more I look at this and add in the scabbard the more I a thinking Thai too. I will see if I can find some matching blade profiles.

5th December 2013, 11:10 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,761	Have get a very informed statement by email. This knife coming from Cambodia or Thailand border to Cambodia and is a so called e-nep thai "Khmer" kukri. The scabbard is traditional to Cambodia, the used metal for the fittings most probable from samrit, a brass alloy with worthy metal content. The knife is with 30 cm rather small but very typical. Are there other members with such a knife?

9th December 2013, 10:59 PM	#13
ibeam Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 134	Hi Sajen, Do you have a close up of the blade? Like to see the detail on the spine of the blade...