giant tenegre

blindside · 30th August 2018, 09:02 PM

So this auction recently ended on Ebay (I didn't win it) and while the blade itself isn't terribly unusual, the size is. According to the description i the overall length of 35.5 inches, probably 10 inches longer than most other examples of tenegre that I have seen. Is this common, uncommon, was there a particular purpose for these longer blades, was the original owner just compensating for something?

Thank you,

Battara · 30th August 2018, 11:26 PM

That’s one honking big tenegre! 😳

Rafngard · 31st August 2018, 03:40 AM

I think the scabbard is a different than a standard tenegre scabbard also.

Thanks,
Leif

Roland_M · 31st August 2018, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blindside

was the original owner just compensating for something?

I think the winner probably just compensating for something

Roland

Sajen · 31st August 2018, 05:46 PM

It's a very nice Tenegre, my guess would be that it coming from Ilooilo, Panay. Indeed a very large sword of this type. I have one wich is a little bit shorter with approx. 30". The scabbard is similar worked like by the one in question, see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=tenegre
Very interesting sword, thank's for posting.

Battara · 1st September 2018, 03:28 AM

Sajen is right again! This belongs to the lowlanders on Panay island.

Ian · 4th September 2018, 11:41 AM

This looks to be a very blade-heavy weapon. While most tenegre do have a balance point several inches in front of the hilt, this one would have a balance point much further out than most. Difficult to wield it with any swiftness I would think.
Ian.

blindside · 5th September 2018, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roland_M

I think the winner probably just compensating for something

Roland

It only took me a week to figure out the implication....

When you get it (assuming I read this right) I am very curious about its balance or if the blade used a more extreme distal taper than normal to pull back its balance point to something reasonable.

Roland_M · 6th September 2018, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindside

It only took me a week to figure out the implication....

When you get it (assuming I read this right) I am very curious about its balance or if the blade used a more extreme distal taper than normal to pull back its balance point to something reasonable.

Yes, as soon as i have it, i will answer every question. I'm quite experienced with sword testing, so i can make a proper statement about the combat value of the sword.
It got a couple of damages on the cutting edge and the point, it clearly has seen intense combat. Definitely no representation sword.

Roland

Roland_M · 12th September 2018, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by blindside

When you get it (assuming I read this right) I am very curious about its balance or if the blade used a more extreme distal taper than normal to pull back its balance point to something reasonable.

Yesterday the Tenegre arrived and it is very impressive.

The blade without the hilt is 68.5cm or 27" long and with 1060 grams very heavy. The thicknes at the handguard is 8mm and at the point 4mm.
The width at the handguard is 2cm and 5.5cm at the widest point.

The point of balance is around 24cm away from the handguard. Together with the weight of 1060 grams and without a compensating pommel this leads to a very heavy feeling. This is a blade designed for one decisive blow.
The cutting edge is still extremely sharp, this sword is able destroy everything, smaller swords, spears, shields and their owners.
The cutting edge is full of tiny damages and some deeper nicks caused by other swords.
The forging pattern looks very promising. As far as I can see now, it is a very fine laminated sword with a beautiful pattern.
The owner of this sword must had been very strong and tall, otherwise this sword cannot be controlled.

The head became almost black after oiling. With its fresh polished silver eyes the head looks almost hypnotic. This is a nice application of psychological war fare. The head with its glowing eyes will attract the opponents concentration at least a little bit, since the brain is "programed" to recognize human faces. In my opinion the monster head is a mixture of a human head and a snake, probably a cobra.

Roland

Sajen · 12th September 2018, 09:55 AM

Hi Roland,
I am curious to see it in person by my next visit. BTW, the monster head is called Bakunawa.
Best regards,
Detlef

blindside · 12th September 2018, 04:30 PM

The difference in lighting and contrast really changed the characteristics of that pommel face, it went from smiling to a malevolent grin.

30th August 2018, 09:02 PM	#1
blindside Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 33	giant tenegre So this auction recently ended on Ebay (I didn't win it) and while the blade itself isn't terribly unusual, the size is. According to the description i the overall length of 35.5 inches, probably 10 inches longer than most other examples of tenegre that I have seen. Is this common, uncommon, was there a particular purpose for these longer blades, was the original owner just compensating for something? Thank you, Attached Images Last edited by Robert; 31st August 2018 at 12:49 AM. Reason: Link shows active auction items.

30th August 2018, 11:26 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	That’s one honking big tenegre! 😳

31st August 2018, 03:40 AM	#3
Rafngard Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Minneapolis,MN Posts: 340	I think the scabbard is a different than a standard tenegre scabbard also. Thanks, Leif

31st August 2018, 05:46 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,769	It's a very nice Tenegre, my guess would be that it coming from Ilooilo, Panay. Indeed a very large sword of this type. I have one wich is a little bit shorter with approx. 30". The scabbard is similar worked like by the one in question, see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=tenegre Very interesting sword, thank's for posting.

1st September 2018, 03:28 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Sajen is right again! This belongs to the lowlanders on Panay island.

4th September 2018, 11:41 AM	#7
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,197	This looks to be a very blade-heavy weapon. While most tenegre do have a balance point several inches in front of the hilt, this one would have a balance point much further out than most. Difficult to wield it with any swiftness I would think. Ian.

12th September 2018, 09:55 AM	#11
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,769	Hi Roland, I am curious to see it in person by my next visit. BTW, the monster head is called Bakunawa. Best regards, Detlef

12th September 2018, 04:30 PM	#12
blindside Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 33	The difference in lighting and contrast really changed the characteristics of that pommel face, it went from smiling to a malevolent grin.