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17th May 2024, 01:19 PM | #1 |
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Barung with chopmark/stamp
I recently acquired this barung which has a chopmark/stamp. The hilt is modern.
I am not sure if the mark on this blade is authentic. I have read ,and was told also, that there are some instances wherein chopmarks are made on the barung in order for the steel to look like from China thus increasing the value in the old times. Last edited by h0ll0wman; 17th May 2024 at 03:49 PM. |
19th May 2024, 05:03 AM | #2 |
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This looks like a spit barong. Many of these chop marks are meaningless, placed to make the blade look like it was made by superior smiths.
Still lt would be good to have it checked out just in case it does say something in Chinese. |
19th May 2024, 06:02 AM | #3 |
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Hello Battara. Thank you for the insight. I have a Chinese friend and he told me that the chopmark is not a Chinese charater. May I know what you mean when you said "spit barong"?
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19th May 2024, 10:01 PM | #4 |
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I believe Jose's autocorrection didn't like the word "sipit"
Your hilt seems quite modern and likely is a replacement. Regards, Kai |
20th May 2024, 01:51 AM | #5 |
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Vielen Dank Kai.
Siput/sipit barong (I HATE spell check) is a type of barong with a thinner in width blade than normal, and is attributed to the region of Palawan Island. |
22nd May 2024, 12:10 PM | #6 |
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I see. That is interesting. This is the first time I encountered the word "Siput/sipit" in describing the blade profile of the barung. I believe the bladesmiths here in the Philippines who make the modern barung does not use that term anymore. Thank you for the information.
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Sorry, but I have to disagree with your Chinese friend. This character is a variation of the Chinese character 永 Yong (in Mandarin) or Wing (in Cantonese). It means eternal, endless; long, prolonged; permanent, as well as the surname Yong. I think that in this case it is the blacksmith’s family sign. But it is possible that a lesser-known blacksmith forged the signature of a more famous and popular colleague in the craft |
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