Translation Assistance Requested for Kaskara Hilt

laEspadaAncha · 9th February 2011, 11:15 PM

I long ago lost track of how many sharp and pointy objects have come - and gone - through my hands over the years, but this is my first kaskara.

The sword measures a little over 27 inches / 69 cm overall with a 22.5 inch / 57 cm blade that measures 1.125 inches in width. Both sides of the (rather sharp) blade are covered in thuluth script, but one side of the grip also has something written in Arabic that doesn't as wildly stylized as the thuluth script on the blade, which I am humbly hoping someone may be able to translate.

I have attached several photos below, including a photo of the reverse side of the cylindrical grip that is covered in a nicely executed design.

A.alnakkas · 9th February 2011, 11:33 PM

I can read one word: العدل which means Justice. Though i would like to point out that am lousy at translating Thuluth + persian inscription.

laEspadaAncha · 9th February 2011, 11:50 PM

Hello Abdullatif,

I remember your introductory thread in December in which you offered your assistance in translating Arabic, and I kindly thank you for your assistance in this thread.

In your opinion, is there more to the hilt inscription than the one word you were able to decipher? I ask as when I enlarge the word for "justice," it would seem to my untrained eye there are other characters still unaccounted for on the hilt.

Lastly, if re-orienting the image (by rotating or inverting it) or taking additional photographs might assist in your efforts, I would happily oblige.

Thank you once again...

Regards,

Chris

DaveS · 10th February 2011, 03:46 AM

My eyes might be deceiving me but is that an ivory handle? It looks like
an age crack in one of the pictures similar to an ivory crack.......Dave.

laEspadaAncha · 10th February 2011, 05:09 AM

Hi Dave,

I wish it was made of ivory.

While not absolutely certain, I am fairly confident it is made of bone... Not only is there no visible (cross-hatched) grain, but there is what appears to be visible (Haversian system) streaking on the undecorated areas of the handle.

Regards,

Chris

A.alnakkas · 10th February 2011, 07:33 AM

Hey

Yes please do rotate it, the word is followed by another letter which i think in a normal script.. it means that it will be followed by the word on top. A zoom on the top word and the letter following Justice will be nice.

Wonderful piece btw

9th February 2011, 11:15 PM	#1
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	Translation Assistance Requested for Kaskara Hilt I long ago lost track of how many sharp and pointy objects have come - and gone - through my hands over the years, but this is my first kaskara. The sword measures a little over 27 inches / 69 cm overall with a 22.5 inch / 57 cm blade that measures 1.125 inches in width. Both sides of the (rather sharp) blade are covered in thuluth script, but one side of the grip also has something written in Arabic that doesn't as wildly stylized as the thuluth script on the blade, which I am humbly hoping someone may be able to translate. I have attached several photos below, including a photo of the reverse side of the cylindrical grip that is covered in a nicely executed design.

9th February 2011, 11:33 PM	#2
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	I can read one word: العدل which means Justice. Though i would like to point out that am lousy at translating Thuluth + persian inscription.

9th February 2011, 11:50 PM	#3
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	Hello Abdullatif, I remember your introductory thread in December in which you offered your assistance in translating Arabic, and I kindly thank you for your assistance in this thread. In your opinion, is there more to the hilt inscription than the one word you were able to decipher? I ask as when I enlarge the word for "justice," it would seem to my untrained eye there are other characters still unaccounted for on the hilt. Lastly, if re-orienting the image (by rotating or inverting it) or taking additional photographs might assist in your efforts, I would happily oblige. Thank you once again... Regards, Chris

10th February 2011, 03:46 AM	#4
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	My eyes might be deceiving me but is that an ivory handle? It looks like an age crack in one of the pictures similar to an ivory crack.......Dave.

10th February 2011, 05:09 AM	#5
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	Hi Dave, I wish it was made of ivory. While not absolutely certain, I am fairly confident it is made of bone... Not only is there no visible (cross-hatched) grain, but there is what appears to be visible (Haversian system) streaking on the undecorated areas of the handle. Regards, Chris

10th February 2011, 07:33 AM	#6
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Hey Yes please do rotate it, the word is followed by another letter which i think in a normal script.. it means that it will be followed by the word on top. A zoom on the top word and the letter following Justice will be nice. Wonderful piece btw