Jian Id help needed

Jason Anstey · 12th May 2010, 05:03 PM

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone had any information on this particular Jian?

It is interesting how similar the guard looks to a Japanese tsuba. Any info or better pics of this particular sword or similar would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Jason

fearn · 12th May 2010, 06:50 PM

Where did you get those pics?

Nathaniel · 13th May 2010, 02:18 AM

Jason,

The pictures posted are from this article...which provides some information...if you need more I would email the author, Philip Tom.

http://www.sevenstarstrading.com/html/articles/art.html

Jason Anstey · 13th May 2010, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fearn

Where did you get those pics?

I saved them a while ago into a folder of Jian styles I like. I found them via google images.

THanks Nathaniel and Gav for sending the links of the articles.

Philip · 28th May 2010, 10:54 PM

This sword is one of a small number of jian, dating from the Ming through Qing Dynasties, with flat, discoid guards patterned after those characteristic of peidao (sabers). Many of these rare forms are sumptuously-fitted weapons, perhaps the most well known is one with gilt bronze fittings, attributed to the Qianlong Emperor, now in the Musee de l'Armee, Paris. Occasionally one encounters a heavy example of rustic manufacture, with very simple, village-made iron fittings, put together during the 19h cent., sometimes with a much earlier blade, others having a completely "home-made" appearance.

Jason Anstey · 29th May 2010, 03:24 AM

Many thanks Philip!

You wouldn't perchance have any close ups of the tsuba (sorry I don't have correct knowledge of Chinese swords nomenclature)

Cheers

Jason

Philip · 29th May 2010, 10:42 PM

Hi, Jason
Sorry I don't have pics of this, the sword is in a private collection and I don't have access to it. Those flat plate-like guards are called "pan hushou" (plate/platter protect hand is the literal translation).

12th May 2010, 05:03 PM	#1
Jason Anstey Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 102	Jian Id help needed Hi all, I was wondering if anyone had any information on this particular Jian? It is interesting how similar the guard looks to a Japanese tsuba. Any info or better pics of this particular sword or similar would be greatly appreciated. Cheers Jason Attached Images

28th May 2010, 10:54 PM	#5
Philip Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 1,036	Jian with saber-type handguards This sword is one of a small number of jian, dating from the Ming through Qing Dynasties, with flat, discoid guards patterned after those characteristic of peidao (sabers). Many of these rare forms are sumptuously-fitted weapons, perhaps the most well known is one with gilt bronze fittings, attributed to the Qianlong Emperor, now in the Musee de l'Armee, Paris. Occasionally one encounters a heavy example of rustic manufacture, with very simple, village-made iron fittings, put together during the 19h cent., sometimes with a much earlier blade, others having a completely "home-made" appearance.

12th May 2010, 06:50 PM	#2
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Where did you get those pics?

13th May 2010, 02:18 AM	#3
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	Jason, The pictures posted are from this article...which provides some information...if you need more I would email the author, Philip Tom. http://www.sevenstarstrading.com/html/articles/art.html

29th May 2010, 03:24 AM	#6
Jason Anstey Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 102	Many thanks Philip! You wouldn't perchance have any close ups of the tsuba (sorry I don't have correct knowledge of Chinese swords nomenclature) Cheers Jason

29th May 2010, 10:42 PM	#7
Philip Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 1,036	Hi, Jason Sorry I don't have pics of this, the sword is in a private collection and I don't have access to it. Those flat plate-like guards are called "pan hushou" (plate/platter protect hand is the literal translation).