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Old 18th November 2023, 07:18 PM   #1
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Default Very Nice Sundanese Golok

Hello,

Here is a very unusual golok that I recently acquired.
I broke the bank but I fell in love with its strangeness because I like non-academic objects.
Some may have seen it on sale or on Facebook.
Has anyone seen similar examples?

Unfortunately there is no sheath.
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Old 18th November 2023, 07:59 PM   #2
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That's a beauty! I don't have one that looks like this, but i do have a rather large and heavy old Balinese blade that was identified as a golok that was supposed to be used by temple priests for preparation of ceremonial offerings. Again, it is a completely different style from yours, but perhaps they are both meant for the same type of culture usage.
The blade is 11.75 inches long, 3.25 inches wide and weighs in at a whopping 2 lbs.
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Old 18th November 2023, 11:39 PM   #3
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Very nice kitchen knife, Séverin!

Jesting aside: Neat Sunda piece - congrats! Typical high-end workmanship on the hilt and a very fine blade!

Could you add dimensions including blade thickness, please?

Here is another extravagant Sunda blade that I got from Hans' collection:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=12544
Not similar enough to be of much help though.

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Old 20th November 2023, 03:02 PM   #4
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Here is another extravagant Sunda blade that I got from Hans' collection:
[url]http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=12544[/url]
Not similar enough to be of much help though.


The blades are completely different, but I see many similarities in the dress patterns.
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Old 18th November 2023, 11:50 PM   #5
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Hello David,

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Again, it is a completely different style from yours, but perhaps they are both meant for the same type of culture usage.
Your blade looks vintage and has a very different profile. Also, these are very different cultures.

I'd guess that Séverin's blade exhibits a nice balance. Its main function might well be ceremonial. To me it seems like quite a stretch though to argue for the same type of usage based on these unrelated and very different examples, I'm afraid.

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Old 19th November 2023, 07:43 PM   #6
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Hello Séverin,

Beautiful 19th century example, congrats!

Lately a 19th century example was sold here in Germany, sadly I wasn't able to acquire it but here are some pics from the seller. Handle was loose and the scabbard mouth piece was missing.

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Old 20th November 2023, 05:14 PM   #7
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Hello Séverin,

Beautiful 19th century example, congrats!

Lately a 19th century example was sold here in Germany, sadly I wasn't able to acquire it but here are some pics from the seller. Handle was loose and the scabbard mouth piece was missing.

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Detlef
Beautiful sword Detlef. Would this be considered a golok though?
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Old 20th November 2023, 09:11 PM   #8
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Beautiful sword Detlef. Would this be considered a golok though?
Hello David,

Yes, a Sundanese golok. The mouthpiece from the scabbard is missing. Someone wanted it more than I did!

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Old 19th November 2023, 07:52 PM   #9
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Your blade looks vintage and has a very different profile. Also, these are very different cultures.

I'd guess that Séverin's blade exhibits a nice balance. Its main function might well be ceremonial. To me it seems like quite a stretch though to argue for the same type of usage based on these unrelated and very different examples, I'm afraid.

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Well, if ceremonial, what purpose do you suppose Athanase golok may have been applied to? When i suggested they may have been applied to a similar purpose i meant that both may have been used to prepare ceremonial offerings. That's a specific as i went, not that they were used for that exact same purpose. And i wasn't "arguing" anything. I clearly wrote that "perhaps" they were both meant for preparing ritual offerings. Are you looking for argument here?
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Your blade looks vintage and has a very different profile.
BTW, i can assure you that while the dress is indeed vintage (perhaps 25-30 years), the blade is definitely antique.
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