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17th January 2007, 04:46 PM | #1 |
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Tombak, Java
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I recently bought this tombak and when I opened the package I immediatly loved this item. I know nothing about these tombaks, so you might help me with some questions. I'd like to know from what age this tombak is approximatly. I looked at the internet and I find a lot of tombaks but I cannot find a tombak like this one. I appreciate your help, because I want to know what I have in hands. Any more knowledge is welcome. I attached some pictures of the tombak. Maurice |
17th January 2007, 05:41 PM | #2 |
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That is a nice old one you have there. The blade seems to have been made for real use unlike some others I have seen that are more ceremonial. A very nice find. Btw I remember reading somewhere that there was a famous Indonesian smith that made keris and spears using more refined steel in order to punch through European armor. Your spear reminds me of that story because it has a steelier look to it than most pamored tombak I have seen reminds me more of a Moro budiak spear. Lew |
17th January 2007, 06:08 PM | #3 |
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Hi Lew,
That's exactly what I ment to say but I didn't express myself that way. Indeed it has a steelier look, and the other ones I found on the internet where more pamored. So it might not be originated from Java? Now you made me very curious. Thanks for your reply Lew. Maurice |
17th January 2007, 06:10 PM | #4 |
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Another Smooth Tombak
When etched these blades show their construction quite plainly.
I wouldn't really call this a pamor but maybe it is. I know that the dress is recent but the tombak itself I have no idea about. Last edited by Rick; 17th January 2007 at 06:20 PM. |
17th January 2007, 09:58 PM | #5 |
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Hi Rick,
Your tombak has more colourdifferences as mine. But the shape is close to my tombak. Do you perhaps now where your tombak comes from (what area of indonesia) gr. Maurice |
17th January 2007, 11:26 PM | #6 |
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Hi Maurice,
A beautiful tombak. I agree with Lew's opinion on your blade. Your tombak seems to have a diamond cross-section while Rick's is more oval. Hi Rick, I like your blade but not the fittings. The blade seems to have some age to it. It looks more of a 'san mai' construction with a faint 'tunggak semi' pamor at the base of the tombak above the metuk. Another beauty. |
18th January 2007, 12:32 AM | #7 | |
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Alam Shah, I agree about the dress; not so great. I wonder, since these blades are smooth could they be Balinese ? There is a fairly pronounced central ridge on the blade; it doesn't show too well in the pictures but it is a diamond cross-section and has very sharp hardened edges. |
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18th January 2007, 08:38 AM | #8 |
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Hi guys,
So it looks that I have a moro bodiak spear instead of a java tombak. I wanted to sell this piece, but I like it so much I think I'll keep it for myself. Maurice |
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