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At least that's what the original collectors notes call it (in Dutch).
Blade looks to have been etched and restained many times. Interesting 'lugs' like a harpoon. Overall length in scabard 51cm. Blade a fraction under 43cm. The largest Bugis Keris I've ever had I think. Help and comments appreciated as always. |
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It looks like an older Lombok blade in a refurbished (or new) Sulawesi sheath. Buntut is most probably new.
Hilt is an old one. The somewhat exotic term "Executioneers kris" is mostly applied to panjang type blades. |
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Hello Gustav,
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I can see your point but am not fully convinced yet... ![]() ![]() ![]() I have seen blades with a somewhat similar profile from the Riau archipelago; the greneng may better fit with the suggested eastern origin though. Same-o with the selut which Detlef attributed to Sumbawa which IMVHO doesn't look close enough to the examples mentioned to ascertain this origin... Regards, Kai |
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have a look to this selut/pendokok. Best, Detlef |
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Yup, similar indeed.
![]() Did you got your example from Hartadi, Detlef? The innermost ring in Gene's example is indented while it is kinda raised/granulated (more similar to the outermost ring) in Detelef's example. I won't quibble though until we have more of these with sound provenance. Regards, Kai |
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Interesting combination .
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These have been sat in a collection for years.
Whether the collector (who lived out there) had the sheath made or bought the blade in this configuration with a recently (at that time) made sheath I don't know, but he seems to have preserved many items in exactly 'as found by him' condition. Usually he seems to have either just heavily greased them or varnished the blades. |
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It looks like he has found the sheath in "just sanded and repolished" condition. I see nil signs of patina on sampir, contrary to hilt.
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Absolutely. In hand it looks like it was made yesterday, but the hilt does seem to have some age. I get the feeling he was sourcing this stuff for a long time so he may have had people 'restoring' or even finding it for him and doing some 'tarting-up' prior to selling to him. It's all a good fit though. Is the blade an interesting one? |
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Hi Gene,
very interesting piece. Gustav is correct, the blade have a Lombok touch. Can you provide a picture how the blade fits inside the sheath? Pendokok look like a Sumbawa one. See here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11474, look posts 2, 5 & 6. Never have seen a blade like this with harpoon like hooks. Regards, Detlef |
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