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Old 18th March 2008, 09:44 AM   #1
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Default BUGIS KERIS 9 LUK for comments or fun

Lucky lucky lucky me.

I found myself a huge buginese keris for sharing.

Pamor looks Raja abal raja to me, any comments ?
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Old 18th March 2008, 11:44 AM   #2
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Niiiice blade Wilhem
I agree with you Raja abala raja luk 9.
after I look at your blade, i try to look at this 4 of blades and my feeling was zero

hhhmm....where in east of lombok to find old blade like yours

YOU REALY LUCKY WILHEM.

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Old 18th March 2008, 03:22 PM   #3
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Lucky lucky lucky me.
I found myself a huge buginese keris for sharing.
Pamor looks Raja abal raja to me, any comments ?
Congrats! Lovely Bugis-influenced blade... The sheath is typical Bugis, but not original to the blade. The gandik and the greneng areas suggest a Northern Peninsular or Sumatran origin, perhaps.

Beautiful pamor and a nice 'ganja iras' blade.
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Old 18th March 2008, 06:48 PM   #4
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Thanks for the info.

I was not sure about the fit of the blade myself.
But the total of the blade the nice massive selut and the old ukiran made me buy it anyway. Here these old keris are also getting difficult to find.

Best regards,
Willem

Ps. any suggestions on how a toli toli shoud look on this keris ?
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Old 19th March 2008, 02:52 AM   #5
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Thanks for the info.

I was not sure about the fit of the blade myself.
But the total of the blade the nice massive selut and the old ukiran made me buy it anyway. Here these old keris are also getting difficult to find.

Ps. any suggestions on how a toli toli shoud look on this keris ?
A good buy, nevertheless. I'm most interested in the blade.
Click here to see how to tie a toli-toli.
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Old 19th March 2008, 04:12 AM   #6
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You know. I've looked a few times at that blade in the wrongko.

To me, it looks OK.

Yeah, the curve of the top of the wrongko and the curve of the gonjo are different, but the buntut urang and the sirah cecak are mated to the line of the wood; yeah, there seems to be a bit of sloppiness around the edge of the gonjo, but you get this anyway with an old original wrongko.

From what I can see---only from what I can see-- I would not be prepared to say this wrongko was not original to the blade.
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Old 19th March 2008, 06:06 AM   #7
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Hi Willem,

If it's not too much to ask, could you post 2 pictures.
1) A close-up of the base of the blade, (sample).
2) A close-up of the sheath where the blade rest in its sheath, (sample).

Thanks,
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Old 4th July 2016, 03:15 AM   #8
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Lucky lucky lucky me.

I found myself a huge buginese keris for sharing.

Pamor looks Raja abal raja to me, any comments ?
The same mendak with my keris



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Old 24th August 2016, 12:30 AM   #9
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The same mendak with my keris



Probably exactly the same as I sold mine over a year ago to a dutch trader.
The toli toli on your example is looking familiar too. This type comes from the north east of the Netherlands.
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Old 24th August 2016, 03:43 AM   #10
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Cool Nice Pictures!

Willem, would you please upload these images to the site.
They become part of the archive that way.
Thanks.
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Old 2nd September 2016, 12:47 PM   #11
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I found some keris that has the same characteristics come from the islands like Selayar and Makassar. To determine the authenticity of the keris from Sulawesi that you can pay attention to the material that is in use, and in my opinion that your keris comes from water areas such as Makassar and Selayar or include original keris Bugis.



You can pay attention to all three of these characteristics, the chain model mendak, handles and timpo are the same. And a handle shaped dowels (Takala) are mostly found in areas near the coast such as Sumbawa, Makassar and Selayar :

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Old 11th August 2016, 09:38 AM   #12
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Lucky lucky lucky me.

I found myself a huge buginese keris for sharing.

Pamor looks Raja abal raja to me, any comments ?
I had keris like this, and it came from Makassar. Model keris makassar did glance similar to the model Mataram (Mata Rantai Makassar) and Sumatra. Because in antiquity, they cooperate in various fields. So often we see similarities in models of weapons including the keris. To discern that your keris from Sulawesi is very easy to see the material. And I saw the material is still used iron from LUWU South Sulawesi.
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