Unusual Indian dagger / short sword

Royston · 22nd August 2017, 10:45 PM

I have been following the thread on the "Karud" with much interest.
It has prompted me to dig this out and ask for name suggestions.

Mail-piercing, double pointed, curved, single-edged short sword or long dagger should cover it.

48 cm / 19 ins long with a 38cm 13.75 ins single-edged blade which is approximately 1/4 ins thick near the hilt.

Mail-piercing tip which is on the end of an "extra" or second tip.

Heavily decorated blade with bird heads, lions ( or wolves ) and deer. The decoration is repeated on both sides of the blade.

Hilt is steel with two colours of horn as grips.

I think it is too good for a tourist piece so will call it a rich man's hunting dagger.

All comments welcome.
Regards
Roy

estcrh · 22nd August 2017, 11:20 PM

These come from Afghanistan I believe and are fairly new.

Rich · 22nd August 2017, 11:57 PM

That tip looks very fragile to me to be a mail piercer. Looks like it would break off on first use. Otherwise an interesting blade.

Rich

Battara · 23rd August 2017, 12:17 AM

I agree - looks unusable since it will break near the tip under stress and is more like a fantasy piece - maybe more like a modern custom dagger made to look old?

estcrh · 23rd August 2017, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

I agree - looks unusable since it will break near the tip under stress and is more like a fantasy piece - maybe more like a modern custom dagger made to look old?

I have a very similar one...somewere.....I will try to find it, surprisingly the steel is really very strong but I think these are modern made, I have seen a few for sale in the last couple of years.

Bob A · 23rd August 2017, 08:16 AM

I agree also. Serious mechanical drawback in the design.

I've never seen anything remotely resembling this sort of construct, which is not to say it doesn't exist, obviously, but as to utility, meh.

22nd August 2017, 10:45 PM	#1
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 443	Unusual Indian dagger / short sword I have been following the thread on the "Karud" with much interest. It has prompted me to dig this out and ask for name suggestions. Mail-piercing, double pointed, curved, single-edged short sword or long dagger should cover it. 48 cm / 19 ins long with a 38cm 13.75 ins single-edged blade which is approximately 1/4 ins thick near the hilt. Mail-piercing tip which is on the end of an "extra" or second tip. Heavily decorated blade with bird heads, lions ( or wolves ) and deer. The decoration is repeated on both sides of the blade. Hilt is steel with two colours of horn as grips. I think it is too good for a tourist piece so will call it a rich man's hunting dagger. All comments welcome. Regards Roy Attached Images

22nd August 2017, 11:20 PM	#2
estcrh Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,497	These come from Afghanistan I believe and are fairly new.

22nd August 2017, 11:57 PM	#3
Rich Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: comfortably at home, USA Posts: 432	That tip looks very fragile to me to be a mail piercer. Looks like it would break off on first use. Otherwise an interesting blade. Rich

23rd August 2017, 12:17 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	I agree - looks unusable since it will break near the tip under stress and is more like a fantasy piece - maybe more like a modern custom dagger made to look old?

23rd August 2017, 08:16 AM	#6
Bob A Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 427	I agree also. Serious mechanical drawback in the design. I've never seen anything remotely resembling this sort of construct, which is not to say it doesn't exist, obviously, but as to utility, meh.