Interesting Bayonet?

Tim Simmons · 12th April 2008, 05:07 PM

I got this rather interesting bayonet today. I had been after it for some time. Not particularly cheap at around 60 portions but looking at a bigger picture of collecting this type of artifact I am think perhaps it was a very good buy

. Somewhere from the West African coast? It could be inspired by many bayonet patterns. I think it easy to see the French Gras bayonet? The spike is just over 41cm the handle 9.5cm. How and what type of gun did it fit? The hole in the top and bottom of the handle is 5mm. Did it fit on the ram rod/cleaning stick or could a metal spike be stuck into the wood of the gun and the bayonet stuck on that? Perhaps it was just for show or just a dagger inspired by a bayonet? Puzzling! lots of pics to follow.

Tim Simmons · 12th April 2008, 05:13 PM

Close up.

Tim Simmons · 12th April 2008, 05:19 PM

with this other item with a tusk or tooth handle.

I think it is jolly nice.

Jim McDougall · 12th April 2008, 06:27 PM

A blow gun bayonet ?

Seriously though, incredibly unique Tim! I like the rugged mechanical look of the elements. Gotta hit the books!

All the best,
Jim

Tim Simmons · 12th April 2008, 06:37 PM

I could see it fitting on the stick thing on this muzzleloading 1866-74 model. I really know nothing of guns. Would make the rod a little heavy but not completely unwieldy.
http://www.militaryrifles.com/France/Gras.htm

kronckew · 12th April 2008, 06:37 PM

looks like a local copy of the french lebel spike bayonet, no. africa?

fernando · 12th April 2008, 08:02 PM

Lebel copy allright Kronckew.
This rifle was used by the French Foreign Legion, right ?
So North Africa makes all sense ...
Fernando

12th April 2008, 05:07 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,781	Interesting Bayonet? I got this rather interesting bayonet today. I had been after it for some time. Not particularly cheap at around 60 portions but looking at a bigger picture of collecting this type of artifact I am think perhaps it was a very good buy . Somewhere from the West African coast? It could be inspired by many bayonet patterns. I think it easy to see the French Gras bayonet? The spike is just over 41cm the handle 9.5cm. How and what type of gun did it fit? The hole in the top and bottom of the handle is 5mm. Did it fit on the ram rod/cleaning stick or could a metal spike be stuck into the wood of the gun and the bayonet stuck on that? Perhaps it was just for show or just a dagger inspired by a bayonet? Puzzling! lots of pics to follow.

12th April 2008, 05:13 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,781	handle Close up.

12th April 2008, 05:19 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,781	Compere with this other item with a tusk or tooth handle. I think it is jolly nice.

12th April 2008, 08:02 PM	#7
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Lebel copy allright Kronckew. This rifle was used by the French Foreign Legion, right ? So North Africa makes all sense ... Fernando Attached Images

12th April 2008, 06:27 PM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,896	A blow gun bayonet ? Seriously though, incredibly unique Tim! I like the rugged mechanical look of the elements. Gotta hit the books! All the best, Jim

12th April 2008, 06:37 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,781	I could see it fitting on the stick thing on this muzzleloading 1866-74 model. I really know nothing of guns. Would make the rod a little heavy but not completely unwieldy. http://www.militaryrifles.com/France/Gras.htm

12th April 2008, 06:37 PM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,167	looks like a local copy of the french lebel spike bayonet, no. africa?