Gun Lock for I.D.

rickystl · 31st October 2011, 10:40 PM

Hello all. Well, here goes with another lock. Can anyone identify this as a European lock? Lockplate is 6 3/16" long X 1 3/16" wide. Unfortunatly, there are no marks of any kind on the lock. The really unusual thing is the bridle - only - is made of brass. The rest of the internal parts are iron. The brass bridle has the same amount of wear and patina as the rest of the lock. Three of us are speculating back and fourth on this lock. One of the most unusual I've seen. Any speculation appreciated. Thanks, Rick.

Fernando K · 1st November 2011, 08:40 PM

Hola, Rick

Para mí se trata de una llave militar, copia del modelo francés, de las últimas llaves (Lock) de chispa (flintlock). El pié de gato (cock) es del tipo reforzado (Chien a espalet) y no del tipo "Cuello de cisne ". Lo realmente raro es la brida (bridge) de bronce. Puede ser una copia del algún país europeo

AHello, Rick

For me it is a military key, copy the French model, the latest keys (Lock) spark (flintlock). The cat's foot (cock) is reinforced type (Chien to espalet) and not like "swan neck". The really strange thing is the clamp (bridge) of bronze. It may be a copy of any European country

Affectionately. Fernando Kfectuosamente. Fernando K

Matchlock · 1st November 2011, 08:47 PM

Hi Rick,

I agrree with Fernando K.

French military lock, ca. 1750-60. The brass bridle retaining the tumbler is highly unusual indeed. Might also have belonged to a pre-Revolutionary American musket or pistol.

Great condition, anyway!

Best,
Michael

rickystl · 2nd November 2011, 03:31 PM

Hello Fernando K and Michael !!! Thank you both for your input. Most appreciated. Rick.

31st October 2011, 10:40 PM	#1
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,623	Gun Lock for I.D. Hello all. Well, here goes with another lock. Can anyone identify this as a European lock? Lockplate is 6 3/16" long X 1 3/16" wide. Unfortunatly, there are no marks of any kind on the lock. The really unusual thing is the bridle - only - is made of brass. The rest of the internal parts are iron. The brass bridle has the same amount of wear and patina as the rest of the lock. Three of us are speculating back and fourth on this lock. One of the most unusual I've seen. Any speculation appreciated. Thanks, Rick. Attached Images

1st November 2011, 08:40 PM	#2
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 669	Hola, Rick Para mí se trata de una llave militar, copia del modelo francés, de las últimas llaves (Lock) de chispa (flintlock). El pié de gato (cock) es del tipo reforzado (Chien a espalet) y no del tipo "Cuello de cisne ". Lo realmente raro es la brida (bridge) de bronce. Puede ser una copia del algún país europeo AHello, Rick For me it is a military key, copy the French model, the latest keys (Lock) spark (flintlock). The cat's foot (cock) is reinforced type (Chien to espalet) and not like "swan neck". The really strange thing is the clamp (bridge) of bronze. It may be a copy of any European country Affectionately. Fernando Kfectuosamente. Fernando K

1st November 2011, 08:47 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Rick, I agrree with Fernando K. French military lock, ca. 1750-60. The brass bridle retaining the tumbler is highly unusual indeed. Might also have belonged to a pre-Revolutionary American musket or pistol. Great condition, anyway! Best, Michael

2nd November 2011, 03:31 PM	#4
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,623	Hello Fernando K and Michael !!! Thank you both for your input. Most appreciated. Rick.