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5th August 2015, 04:00 AM | #1 |
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Keris pamor
I recently visited a local collector here that have some keris with very beautiful pamor. Went back to this forum to do a search for good examples of the same and was mildly surprised that there is no specific thread about this important keris feature.
As I am a very new and uneducated keris collector, I would appreciate if any forrumers /experts /collectors can show their keris with good pamors . This will helpfully aid me in understanding pamor better and choosing better specimen to buy to upgrade my sorry collection. Pamor types are many, very complex and confusing to identify .Attached are some pics of pamor types/identification taken from an indonesian keris blog but I'd really like to see photos of real keris with good pamors from any of you. thanks. |
5th August 2015, 10:56 PM | #2 |
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Welcome to the forum Green .
Rather than ask us to repost many of our kerises I think you would be better served by purchasing a copy of ENSIKLOPEDI KERIS and then use the search engine in the Warung to view other examples belonging to members here . |
6th August 2015, 06:39 AM | #3 | |
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6th August 2015, 06:39 AM | #4 |
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Looks like the Benda Sagada Winengku |
6th August 2015, 10:27 AM | #5 |
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thanks Max...very beautiful...
Rick; The reason I ask our more experienced members/collectors to post their keris here is so that it can inform me what is the quality I should aim for when I plan to do my purchase... as it is I'm clueless as to what is the yardstick or standard I should aim for... sorry if i sound too green for this forum. |
6th August 2015, 10:38 AM | #6 |
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Green, nobody is too green for this forum:- all of us are only students, none of us are yet masters --- in fact, where the keris is concerned I feel that at the present time it might be just a little bit difficult to find anybody, anywhere who could claim to be a master.
I understand your motivation in asking to see examples, but it may be that actual examples of pamors could confuse you, possibly a more useful approach could be to look at line drawings, such as can be found in Tammens, and then look for pamor execution that comes close to the drawing of the motif. |
6th August 2015, 02:36 PM | #7 |
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Hello Green,
I understand your request and will try to help you but first you should realize that all these nice pamors are basically Javanese or Indonesian and it may be extremely difficult for you to find old blades with such pamor. I attach the pics of 5 blades with a style of pamor included in your list, will you be able to identify them? I can provide more detailed pics if required. Regards Last edited by Jean; 6th August 2015 at 07:44 PM. |
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Here's the problem. facebook is full of young Indonesians trying to sell new keris for dirt cheap price (very often around usd150 or less) and based on the pics some have quite good looking pamors. The issue is; are these really good keris with good pamors ? (albeit new ones/not antiques)...how do we judge them (from the pics) ? I guess by looking at examples of good old keris genuine antique keris pamors...? hence my original question posed here. Here are two examples of new keris offered by fb friends... what do you think of these pamors ? |
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