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Old 30th June 2008, 03:47 AM   #1
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Hi. I am interested to know the English translation of the arabic inscription on this armor. thanks.

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Old 3rd July 2008, 04:30 AM   #2
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If you ever find a translation, please post it here......that would be great!
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Old 3rd July 2008, 10:19 AM   #3
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i wish someone can translate this. I know for sure that this is a turkish inscription since I saw the first line on a turkish helmet and on a blade.
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i wish someone can translate this. I know for sure that this is a turkish inscription since I saw the first line on a turkish helmet and on a blade.
Why would this be specifically a Turkish inscription? It is more likely a general Koranic verse or blessing. Did the Turks use a specific identifiable form of script that can be differentiated from other Islamic groups?

Here is a helpful link.
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/turkish.htm

We will need the help of our friend Zifir to see if this is indeed Turkish script.


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Old 3rd July 2008, 04:20 PM   #5
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Arabic is the religoius language of Muslim nations period this looks like Arabic

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Arabic is the religoius language of Muslim nations period this looks like Arabic

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Ward Arabic script had different forms over 500 yrs so there is a difference in the way it is written. Many older variations cannot be understood by modern day Moslems.

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Old 3rd July 2008, 08:59 PM   #7
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i wish someone can translate this. I know for sure that this is a turkish inscription since I saw the first line on a turkish helmet and on a blade.
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I just showed the inscription to one of my Yemenite friends in the office and the writing is Arabic not (Perso-Arabic) Ottoman script. It is a verse or verses from the Koran. Nothing to do or identify with Turks at all he said. Koranic verses are found on many swords and armor in the Islamic world from India to the Sudan and from Asia to Eastern Europe it was a common practice. So unless an inscription is written in the Ottoman style there can be no positive link to Turkey or the Ottomans.

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Old 3rd July 2008, 09:13 PM   #8
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Would a verse from the koran like this be considered an agimat, anting-anting , oracion or none of the above ?
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Would a verse from the koran like this be considered an agimat, anting-anting , oracion or none of the above ?
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I'm pretty sure this is a form of anting-anting to protect the wearer in battle.



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Old 7th July 2008, 12:43 AM   #10
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Would a verse from the koran like this be considered an agimat, anting-anting
yes, one verse it's reputated to have that power
- verse of the "Throne" number 254 from surate 2 el Baqarah (the cow)

as well as in use in "Islamic Magic Medicinal Bowl" (my other hobby ... collection of more than 30 ... pieces )

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